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By: Sources | TucsonsNews

Sources | TucsonsNews — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:52:42 +0000

[...] CHENEY WAS CORRECT 2006-03-15 16:04Contributed by Steve J. Tucson | Various | Radamisto | Tucson blog Not in the last 5 years, however. (Via Baghdad Dweller) The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we’d have to do once we got there. You’d probably have to put some new government in place. It’s not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you’d have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the struggle over who’s going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire.Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney speaking on NPR in 1991 read more | source | full article | 8 reads | | | | [...]

By: RADAMISTO: CHENEY WAS CORRECT

RADAMISTO: CHENEY WAS CORRECT — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:46:02 +0000

[...] me as a classic definition of a quagmire.Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney speaking on NPR in 1991 # posted by Steve J. @ 8:04 AM Comments: Post a Comment <

By: Nadia_4iraqis

Nadia_4iraqis — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:24:28 +0000

DaKruser, the interview/press interview between Bush and Jaafari said it all. That is NOT Jaafari and the Iraqi government that are ruling Iraq it IS Bush. We are under full occupation of the U.S.

By the way the U.S is perfectly happy and supportive to the religious dictatorship in Saudi Arabia. This is the double moral and hypocrisy of the U.S foreign policy and those who support it.

By: DaKruser

DaKruser — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:51:31 +0000

We have a mis-communication here, Nadia.
When I stated that I should follow the majority, I was speaking of the American people. We (that meaning many of us who spoke out for his signing of the bill for dated withdrawl) did our best to convince him. We sent letters, made phone calls, contacted our Representatives and Senators, etc. However, when the decision was made there were more who agreed with the President’s policy than disagreed, so we follow this path, hoping for the next chance to make Iraq a better place.
As far as Bush pulling the strings in the Iraqi Legislature, I don’t agree that that is what is happening since we in the US CERTAINLY don’t want another Iran on our hands and that is LadyBird’s biggest fear right now. Mine as well.
It is not for Bush to follow the votes of the Iraqi people. It is for Bush to follow the dictates of the Iraqi Peoples’ representatives, so.…
If they are not doing what they promised, vote them out. That is Democracy in action. I certainly does not make him another Saddam.

By: Nadia_4iraqis

Nadia_4iraqis — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:30:37 +0000

DaKruser wrote “My point here, is, that when a Democratically elected leader makes a decision, and he is backed by the majority, then the rest of us must go along.”

You seem to not know what you are saying. You say MAJORITY rule. Yet here you are not supporting the MAJORITY. So which way is it; are you for majority rule or Bush’s rule?

The majority voted for parties that were for occupation troops to be withdrawn now and set a date for it. The MAJORITY that you keep writing about wanted that and the current government parties were for this withdrawal. Now Jaafari and the rest are not fulfilling this promise they gave. He is doing the opposite. And it is Bush who is saying no, Bush is not withdrawing troops and Bush will not set a date for it either. So it is Bush who is opposing the wishes of the MAJORITY that voted. He is acting as a dictator.

He is taking way our rights here; Bush is taking away the majorities vote here. He is setting stop for what the Iraqi government said they would do to the Iraqi people in the elections.

So yes Bush is exactly as Saddam here. He is acting as a dictator. He does as he wishes with the Iraqi society and Iraqis.

This is Bush caught in his full hypocritical deviously ling act against the Iraqi government and the majority that voted for them.

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:42:58 +0000

So you mean in other words Bush is exactly as Saddam. Well said didn’t think it could come from you.

David can have the occasional but rare moment of lucidity.

By: DaKruser

DaKruser — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:38:57 +0000

Well, Nadia,
I’m not sure I would say that my President is exactly like Saddam. He was elected by the Majority, like Saddam, but there were many more of us who voted against him than Saddam, which makes his election more legitimate. My point here, is, that when a Democratically elected leader makes a decision, and he is backed by the majority, then the rest of us must go along. Sometimes we go along quietly, and sometimes NOT so quietly. When all this was happening, I spoke out against the decision — check back on LadyBird’s site/archive to those dates.
However, I would not put Bush in the same league as Saddam. He may at itmes be misguided, but I don’t see him as maniacal or willing to kill off his opponents in the Gov’t because they don’t agree with him. Saddam was both.
Because I agree with you, ie that it was a bad decision, doesn’t mean I agree with your base premise. Some might say that makes me hypocrite, but in truth it makes me honest.

By: Nadia_4iraqis

Nadia_4iraqis — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:37:16 +0000

It was reflected in the elections. People voted for parties who said they were for occupation troops to leave and/or set a date for it. They did that and now Jaafari et al are not fulfilling their election promise; they are doing exactly the opposite. And the message was clear who was setting the rules it was BUSH, when Jaafari was visiting him live on a tv interview, Bush was not ready to withdraw troops Bush was not ready to set a date. What a hypocritical devious liar Bush is.

By: Nadia_4iraqis

Nadia_4iraqis — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:30:20 +0000

So you mean in other words Bush is exactly as Saddam. Well said didn’t think it could come from you.

By: DaKruser

DaKruser — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:27:47 +0000

No, Nadia,
I am NOT defending him. I think he made a grievous mistake, plain and simple. However, that is the danger of a Democracy, sometimes the majority vote for what we think is not good judgement.