Looters, the whole world wants to see looters

————Update————
Rums­feld said in his com­ment over the loot­ing in Iraq at that time.

It’s untidy, and freedom’s untidy, free peo­ple are free to make mis­takes and com­mit crimes and do bad things. They’re also free to live their lives and do won­der­ful things.

Guardian April 12, 2003 Free to do bad things.

Today on the Wash­ing­ton­post, there is an arti­cle called Iraqi Envoy “Sees Par­al­lel in New Orleans Loot­ing”, Bar­bara Bod­ine, a for­mer U.S. ambas­sador to Yemen who served in Bagh­dad in 2003 said:

I would like to see Mr. Rums­feld stand up and say that to the peo­ple in New Orleans,”.

———-End update———-

I told this story before and I will tell it once again now.
At the first days of the Amer­i­can attack on Iraq employ­ees from the min­istry of indus­try man­aged to save impor­tant doc­u­ments, com­puter disks and data’s of the min­istry from loot­ing and burn­ing by tak­ing them to their houses.

After few weeks and when the sit­u­a­tion get­ting calm they orga­nized a parade inside the min­istry to deliver what they took with back to the min­istry, so they con­tacted my sis­ter who works as jour­nal­ist for Iraq’s TV at that time ask­ing for media cov­er­age of the parade because it shows the world that not all Iraqis are loot­ers and this parade can set a very good exam­ple for the other Iraqis.
My sis­ter took a cam­era­man with her and filmed the parade, inter­viewed the employ­ees their.


My sis­ter went back cry­ing after she gave her res­ig­na­tion.
Yes­ter­day sis­ter send me an email with this text:

Did you saw Kat­rina?

[Thanks to Nadia for this link. Via mak­ing light]

Black peo­ple loot things.

White peo­ple find thingsmes­sage board of Yahoo, there are many com­ments on the subject].

Dont’s miss Michael Moore’s let­ter to G. Bush:

Vaca­tion is Over

Dear Mr. Bush:

Any idea where all our heli­copters are? It’s Day 5 of Hur­ri­cane Kat­rina and thou­sands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be air­lifted. Where on earth could you have mis­placed all our mil­i­tary chop­pers? Do you need help find­ing them? I once lost my car in a Sears park­ing lot. Man, was that a drag.

Also, any idea where all our national guard sol­diers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like help­ing with national dis­as­ters. How come they weren’t there to begin with?

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119 Responses to Looters, the whole world wants to see looters

  1. Jeff says:

    ok, here’s my results…

    Your Type is

    INTJ

    Strength of the preferences %

    Intro­vert — 11%

    Intu­itive — 38%

    Think­ing — 25%

    Judg­ing — 33%

  2. Jeff says:

    I guess this makes me a Judge­men­tal Intu­itive ass­hole who likes to Think to myself alot (Introvert) :-)

  3. Jeff says:

    INTJ exam­ple:

    Per­sonal rela­tion­ships, par­tic­u­larly roman­tic ones, can be the INTJ’s Achilles heel. While they are capa­ble of car­ing deeply for oth­ers (usu­ally a select few), and are will­ing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a rela­tion­ship, the knowl­edge and self-confidence that make them so suc­cess­ful in other areas can sud­denly aban­don or mis­lead them in inter­per­sonal situations.

    This hap­pens in part because many INTJs do not read­ily grasp the social rit­u­als; for instance, they tend to have lit­tle patience and less under­stand­ing of such things as small talk and flir­ta­tion (which most types con­sider half the fun of a rela­tion­ship). To com­pli­cate mat­ters, INTJs are usu­ally extremely pri­vate peo­ple, and can often be nat­u­rally impas­sive as well, which makes them easy to mis­read and mis­un­der­stand. Per­haps the most fun­da­men­tal prob­lem, how­ever, is that INTJs really want peo­ple to make sense. :-) This some­times results in a pecu­liar naivete’, par­al­lel­ing that of many Fs — only instead of expect­ing inex­haustible affec­tion and empa­thy from a roman­tic rela­tion­ship, the INTJ will expect inex­haustible rea­son­abil­ity and directness.

    holy shit! That explains everything!

  4. Jon says:

    Jeff– “Your Type is INTJ

    Thought so! You remind me too much of me. Scary!

    I guess this makes me a Judge­men­tal Intu­itive asshole”

    Not an ass­hole, we’re just misunderstood!

    “can often be nat­u­rally impas­sive as well, which makes them easy to mis­read and misunderstand”

  5. Jon says:

    Jeff– You’re obvi­ously a vam­pire like me too. Only two peo­ple post­ing at this hour from the US.

  6. Jeff says:

    Not an ass­hole, we’re just misunderstood!

    Yeah, that’s it :-) I’m just misunderstood!

    Jeff– You’re obvi­ously a vam­pire like me too. Only two peo­ple post­ing at this hour from the US.

    Yep, My bed­time is usu­ally around 6am or so. I can get more done in the mid­dle of the night.

  7. Jon says:

    Jeff– “Yeah, that’s it I’m just misunderstood!”

    *nog nog nog*

    I can get more done in the mid­dle of the night.”

    I know what you mean. Bet­ter with­out all those annoy­ing _people_ around all the time. ;-)

    Everybody’s gonna git pissed at us for treat­ing this place like a chat room. ;-)

  8. Jeff says:

    I know what you mean. Bet­ter with­out all those annoy­ing _people_ around all the time.

    They just get in the way…

    I just posted some­thing over at my site that you might get a kick out of.

    Click Here…

    Sorry lady­bird, don’t mean to piss you off about the chat thing.

  9. Jon says:

    Jeff– “I just posted some­thing over at my site that you might get a kick out of.”

    That’s ter­ri­ble! You should be ashamed of your­self! Not that I didn’t put that in my “Save” folder or any­thing though. ;-)

  10. Jon says:

    I’ll post this to make up for it. ;-)

    CLICK HERE

  11. Jeff says:

    I’ll post this to make up for it.

    Good one, but I’ll counter that with this clip… ;-)


    Click Here

  12. Jon says:

    I’ll counter that with this clip…”

    Man, that’s sad. Cops are the most entirely messed up indi­vid­u­als I’ve ever seen… and I can say that because I used to be one. There are the odd one or two that joined up to help peo­ple and what­not, but taken as a whole, they are a messed up breed.

  13. Jeff says:

    and I can say that because I used to be one. There are the odd one or two that joined up to help peo­ple and what­not, but taken as a whole, they are a messed up breed.

    Now that’s pretty weird, I’ve been toss­ing around the idea of becom­ing one! I’m even sched­uled for a test next week.

  14. Michael says:

    Jon writes “If peo­ple don’t go out and make for them­selves, then evo­lu­tion says that they are not fit to sur­vive and should die off. It’s sad, but that’s what caused Aus­tralo­p­ithe­cus Afaren­sis to evolve into Homo Sapiens.”

    Well this is exactly what we’ve seen in New Orleans. Seems to me the US already has a Lib­er­tar­ian Gov.

  15. Michael says:

    here

    The real costs of a cul­ture of greed
    Robert Scheer

    Sep­tem­ber 6, 2005

    WHAT THE WORLD has wit­nessed this past week is an image of poverty and social dis­ar­ray that tears away the afflu­ent mask of the United States.

    Instead of the much-celebrated Amer­i­can can-do machine that promises to bring free­dom and pros­per­ity to less for­tu­nate peo­ple abroad, we have seen a cal­lous offi­cial incom­pe­tence that puts even Third World rulers to shame. The well-reported litany of mis­takes by the Bush admin­is­tra­tion in fail­ing to pre­vent and respond to Katrina’s destruc­tion grew longer with each hour’s grim rev­e­la­tion from the streets of an apoc­a­lyp­tic New Orleans.

    Yet the prob­lem is much deeper. For half a cen­tury, free-market purists have to great effect den­i­grated the essen­tial role that mod­ern gov­ern­ment per­forms as some ter­ri­ble lib­eral plot. Thus, the sym­bol­ism of New Orleans’ flood­ing is trag­i­cally apt: Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal and Louisiana Gov. Huey Long’s ambi­tious pop­ulist reforms in the 1930s eased Louisiana out of feu­dal­ism and toward moder­nity; the Rea­gan Rev­o­lu­tion and the cal­lous­ness of both Bush admin­is­tra­tions have sent them back toward the abyss.

    Now we have a pres­i­dent who wastes tax rev­enues in Iraq instead of pro­tect­ing us at home. Levee improve­ments were deferred in recent years even after con­gres­sional approval, report­edly prompt­ing EPA staffers to dub flooded New Orleans “Lake George.”

    None of this is an over­sight, or sim­ple incom­pe­tence. It is the result of a cam­paign by most Repub­li­cans and too many Democ­rats to sys­tem­at­i­cally vil­ify the role of gov­ern­ment in Amer­i­can life. Manip­u­la­tive politi­cians have con­vinced lower– and middle-class whites that their own eco­nomic pains were caused by “quasi-socialist” gov­ern­ment poli­cies that aid only poor brown and black peo­ple — even as cor­po­rate prof­its and CEO salaries soared.

    For decades we have seen social ser­vices that ben­e­fit every­one — edu­ca­tion, com­mu­nity polic­ing, pub­lic health, envi­ron­men­tal pro­tec­tions and infra­struc­ture repair, emer­gency ser­vices — in steady, steep decline in the face of tax cuts and ris­ing mil­i­tary spend­ing. But it is a false sav­ings; it will cer­tainly cost expo­nen­tially more to save New Orleans than it would have to pro­tect it in the first place.

    And, although the wealthy can soften the blow of this national decline by send­ing their kids to pri­vate school, build­ing walls around their com­mu­ni­ties and check­ing into dis­tant hotels in the face of approach­ing calami­ties, oth­ers, like the 150,000 peo­ple liv­ing below the poverty line in the Kat­rina dam­age area — one-third of whom are elderly — are left exposed.

    Watch­ing on tele­vi­sion the stark vul­ner­a­bil­ity of a per­ma­nent under­class of African Amer­i­cans liv­ing in New Orleans ghet­tos is ter­ri­fy­ing. It should be remem­bered, how­ever, that even when hur­ri­canes are not threat­en­ing their lives and san­ity, they live in rot­ting hous­ing com­plexes, attend embar­rass­ingly ill-equipped pub­lic schools and, lack­ing ade­quate police pro­tec­tion, are fre­quently ter­ror­ized by unem­ployed, une­d­u­cated young men.

    In fact, rather than an anom­aly, the pub­lic suf­fer­ing of these des­per­ate Amer­i­cans is a sym­bol for a nation that is becom­ing pro­gres­sively poorer under the lead­er­ship of the party of Big Busi­ness. As Kat­rina was mak­ing its dev­as­tat­ing land­fall, the U.S. Cen­sus Bureau released new fig­ures that show that since 1999, the income of the poor­est fifth of Amer­i­cans has dropped 8.7% in inflation-adjusted dol­lars. Last year alone, 1.1 mil­lion were added to the 36 mil­lion already on the poverty rolls.

    For those who have trou­ble with sta­tis­tics, here’s the short­hand: The rich have been get­ting richer and the poor have been get­ting, in the ripe pop­ulist lan­guage of Louisiana’s leg­endary Long, the shaft.

    These are peo­ple who have long since been aban­doned to their fate. Despite the deep reli­gios­ity of the Gulf States and the United States in gen­eral, it is the gods of greed that seem to rule. Case in point: The cru­cial New Orleans marsh­land that absorbs excess water dur­ing storms has been greatly denuded by ram­pant com­mer­cial devel­op­ment allowed by a deregulation-crazy cul­ture that favors a quick buck over long-term com­mu­nity benefits.

    Given all this, it is no sur­prise that lead­ers, from the White House on down, haven’t done right by the peo­ple of New Orleans and the rest of the region, before and after what insur­ance com­pa­nies insult­ingly call an “act of God.”

    Fact is, most of them, and espe­cially our pres­i­dent, just don’t care about the peo­ple who can’t afford to attend polit­i­cal fundrais­ers or pay for high-priced lob­by­ists. No, these folks are sup­posed to be cruis­ing on the ris­ing tide of a boom­ing, unreg­u­lated econ­omy that “floats all boats.”

    They were left float­ing all right.

  16. Jon says:

    Michael– “Well this is exactly what we’ve seen in New Orleans.”

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… poor black folks vote Demo­c­rat. Bush was just try­ing to widen then mar­gin for future Repub­li­can candidates.

    I’m believe the delay in response to the Kat­rina dis­as­ter has what we call “the mark of Rove” on it.

  17. Jon says:

    The rich have been get­ting richer and the poor have been get­ting, in the ripe pop­ulist lan­guage of Louisiana’s leg­endary Long, the shaft.”

    Viva la revolución!

  18. Charles says:

    Jon,

    What do you make of this story

    Thurs­day, Sep­tem­ber 8

    Major Gar­rett updates us on the Red Cross AND the Sal­va­tion Army being blocked from help­ing by Louisiana state officials

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