Assuming Hurricane Katrina is an act of god, what he is trying to say?

Some reli­gious cults are say­ing that Hur­ri­cane Kat­rina is an act of God, Assum­ing there are right, and let us believe their claims for a minute so what is the Big Guy in the Sky is try­ing to say?

1– Don’t build on the beach.
2– Leave that for­est alone and don’t cut down the trees along the water.
3– Water needs to go some­where so there must be a low-land.
4– Don’t eat meat. [Guardian]

West­ern diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting great pres­sures on the envi­ron­ment. Meat-eaters con­sume the equiv­a­lent of about 5,000 litres [1,100 gal­lons] of water a day com­pared to the 1,000–2,000 litres used by peo­ple on veg­e­tar­ian diets in devel­op­ing coun­tries. All that water has to come from somewhere

5– Lis­ten to what 1300 sci­en­tists said last March [The state of the world? It is on the brink of dis­as­ter]

Planet Earth stands on the cusp of dis­as­ter and peo­ple should no longer take it for granted that their chil­dren and grand­chil­dren will sur­vive in the envi­ron­men­tally degraded world of the 21st century.

G8 sci­en­tists tell Bush: Act now — or else…

The national acad­e­mies of sci­ence for all the G8 coun­tries, along with those of Brazil, India and China, have warned that gov­ern­ments must no longer pro­cras­ti­nate on what is widely seen as the great­est dan­ger fac­ing human­ity. The state­ment, which has taken months to finalise, is all the more impor­tant as it is signed by Bruce Alberts, pres­i­dent of the US National Acad­emy of Sci­ences, which has warned George Bush about the dan­gers of ignor­ing the threat posed by global warming.

6– Con­sider birth con­trol. [Life­Watch Group]

Endan­gered Envi­ron­ment: A Great Con­tri­bu­tion of Capitalism

Thus consumption-wise, the US pop­u­la­tion should be 24 bil­lions as com­pared to Indian pop­u­la­tion or Indian pop­u­la­tion is equiv­a­lent to only 300 mil­lion as com­pared to US pop­u­la­tion .…… 1 US Child = 33 Indian Chil­dren = 800 Ethiopian Children.

7– Don’t be the biggest pol­luter. [Pol­i­tics of the cli­mate change]

CO2 Emis­sions

The US 24%
EU Coun­tries 14%
China 13%

8– Con­sume less energy. [eia]

The United States of Amer­ica is the world’s largest energy pro­ducer, con­sumer, and net importer.

9– Sup­port Kyoto Protocol.

George Bush Refuses to Sign Kyoto Pro­to­col.

George Bush pulled the US out of the Kyoto accords as one of the first acts of his pres­i­dency. Bush dis­missed Kyoto Pro­to­col as too costly, describ­ing it as “an unre­al­is­tic and ever-tightening strait­jacket.” Lately, the White House has even ques­tioned the valid­ity of the sci­ence behind global warm­ing, and claims that mil­lions of jobs will be lost if the US joins in this world pact.

Euro­pean Envi­ron­ment Com­mis­sioner Mar­got Wall­ström said;

But this igno­rant, short sighted and self­ish politi­cian, long since firmly jammed into the pock­ets of the oil lobby, clearly couldn’t care less. The talks in Bonn in July must now con­cen­trate on world action inde­pen­dent of the U.S.‘

10– Sup­port and try to use Green Energy.

This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

29 Responses to Assuming Hurricane Katrina is an act of god, what he is trying to say?

  1. There have been some reli­gious groups claim­ing that God caused the hur­ri­can because a gay event called South­ern Deca­dence was palnned t begin this week in New Orleans. To those who sub­scribe to this belief, I ask you, why didn’t God wait until this week to destroy the city? He surely could have killed a few fags if he hit at the height of the fes­ti­val. Sec­ondly if dis­as­ters like the hur­ri­cane, the tsunami or earth­quakes in Iran and Turkey are an exam­ple of how a heav­enly father treats his chil­dren, then he should be charged with neglect and child abuse and lose custody.

  2. Charles says:

    How come there aren’t more hur­ri­canes in province­town RI?

  3. Nadia_4iraqis says:

    Mother earth is telling us that we must put the envi­ron­men­tal ques­tions on the top of the agenda for all of us on this planet to work on ASAP. The Kyoto pro­to­col needs even to be stricter and all of us need to under­stand that it is this that needs our focus.

  4. Jeff says:

    Mother earth is telling us that we must put the envi­ron­men­tal ques­tions on the top of the agenda for all of us on this planet to work on ASAP. The Kyoto pro­to­col needs even to be stricter and all of us need to under­stand that it is this that needs our focus.

    It’s really to bad the Kyoto pro­to­col wasn’t in place dur­ing the last ice age…

    Nadia, Mother Earth goes through changes and cycles.… just ask the dinosuars…

  5. Jeff says:

    Also, you need to direct your crit­i­cism towards China as well… They will soon pass the US. Very Soon.

  6. Charles says:

    Kyoto pro­to­col Kyoto pro­to­col Kyoto pro­to­col Kyoto protocol

    Have you even read it? Has anyone?

    Doesn’t it lock in Russ­ian emis­sions at a level set about 20 years ago before soviet indus­try collapsed?

    Coun­tries that blindly signed on are now hav­ing sec­ond thoughts.

    The Kiwis appar­ently totally mis­cal­cu­lated what it would cost them. They will have to pay hun­dreds of mil­lions extra to pur­chase cred­its and they don’t even pro­duce any­thing for god’s sake. What indus­tries do they have? Dairy and meat?

  7. Nadia_4iraqis says:

    Jeff, you need to update your knowl­edge of what sci­en­tist are say­ing today. And since you have a ten­dency to see no impor­tance in what I write here I sug­gest you your­self read what scientist’s research are say­ing loud and clear to all of us.

  8. Michael says:

    There are signs of an emerg­ing intel­li­gence in the USA.
    http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxnews&articleid=5397710&format=reformatted&action=article

    WASHINGTON (AFX) — Two key sen­a­tors said Tues­day it may be appro­pri­ate for Con­gress to look at rais­ing manda­tory fuel econ­omy stan­dards to boost the effi­ciency of vehi­cles in the wake of Hur­ri­cane Kat­rina. Sen. Pete Domenici, the Repub­li­can chair­man of the Sen­ate Energy and Nat­ural Resources Com­mit­tee, said at a hear­ing it may be time to “take another look at [cor­po­rate aver­age fuel econ­omy] stan­dards” but added “I don’t know how we would address that.” Sen. Jeff Binga­man, D-N.M., the rank­ing Demo­c­rat on the com­mit­tee, said “I am very encour­aged that this is pos­si­bly an issue we could revisit.” The U.S. auto­mo­tive indus­try has fiercely opposed such mea­sures. The Bush Admin­is­tra­tion recently pro­posed changes to fuel econ­omy stan­dards for light trucks an sport util­ity vehicles

  9. mike says:

    Lets not for­get that Bill Clin­ton never sub­mit­ted the
    Kyoto pro­to­col because it would be over­whelm­ingly rejected
    by the Sen­ate. That Bush pub­licly acknowl­edged this does not
    make him to blame that Kyoto would never become ‘law’ in the
    US

  10. Saxon says:

    Jeff, you need to update your knowl­edge of what sci­en­tist are say­ing today. And since you have a ten­dency to see no impor­tance in what I write here I sug­gest you your­self read what scientist’s research are say­ing loud and clear to all of us.

    Are you say­ing that the earth does not go through cycles? I think you missed the point with the Ice Age com­ment.
    There have been many ages and cycles that this planet has gone through and will con­tinue to go through. There have been many extinc­tions though­out this plan­ets his­tory and there will be many more.

    It is also a very good point that Bill Clin­ton did not sign on it as well.

    But hey from what I’ve read on this site, his­tory didn’t exist before the year 2001. The year bush took office.

    Nadia I would sug­gest that you go back a lit­tle bit in this plan­ets Long his­tory and learn a lit­tle more than what you know now. You need to think a lit­tle more out­side of the Bush hat­ing box. Cli­mate change is a nor­mal func­tion here on the planet earth. It’s been tak­ing place for mil­lions of years. Are you dis­put­ing the very well known fact?

  11. Jon says:

    Lady­Bird– “Meat-eaters con­sume the equiv­a­lent of about 5,000 litres [1,100 gal­lons] of water a day”

    Even if I ate a whole cow every day, there are no cows that con­sume 5000l of water a day. Would like to know how they came up with that statistic.

    Indian pop­u­la­tion is equiv­a­lent to only 300 mil­lion as com­pared to US pop­u­la­tion ……. 1 US Child = 33 Indian Chil­dren = 800 Ethiopian Children”

    These nations live in abject poverty and more much more densely pop­u­lated than their land mass should be forced to sup­port. You could com­pare ANY nation to Ethiopia and India and come up with the assump­tion that the nation con­sumes more than it should. The real truth is that the pop­u­la­tions of those nations should start ster­il­iz­ing peo­ple who have more than one baby per cou­ple until they can bring their pop­u­la­tion under control.

    Don’t be the biggest polluter.”

    We are that, but the rest of the world is clos­ing fast and it’s this com­bined accel­er­a­tion that is going to be the death of us all. I would like to see sta­tis­tics on which nation is reduc­ing emis­sions the fastest too.

    Con­sider birth control.”

    You’ll get much bet­ter results if you actu­ally use it. Con­sid­er­ing has been shown to have very lit­tle effect.

    Sup­port Kyoto Protocol.”

    Even Kyoto isn’t going to reduce gases fast enough to avoid the wide­spread deser­ti­fi­ca­tion and the result­ing star­va­tion that’s com­ing. It’s prob­a­bly already too late to avoid a mass die-off if not extinc­tion of the human race.

    Jeff– “Mother Earth goes through changes and cycles”

    This may or may not be a cycle, but there is no deny­ing that it has been rapidly accel­er­ated by green­house gas emissions.

    Michael– “There are signs of an emerg­ing intel­li­gence in the USA.”

    Thanks for the back­handed compliment.

    Mike– “Lets not for­get that Bill Clinton”

    No, let’s for­get Bill Clin­ton entirely. He is old news and his­tory past and has no bear­ing on what’s hap­pen­ing these days.

    Saxon– “There have been many extinc­tions though­out this plan­ets his­tory and there will be many more.”

    Does this excuse every­one to do noth­ing to avoid it?

    It is also a very good point that Bill Clin­ton did not sign on”

    Only if you con­sider this a dis­cus­sion par­ti­san polit­i­cal dis­cus­sion rather than a topic on the sur­vival of the human race.

    You need to think a lit­tle more out­side of the Bush hat­ing box.”

    And you could think out­side the con­ser­v­a­tive box. Out of the points in this arti­cle, only two of the points even men­tion Bush. Why are Repub­li­can so sen­sative about Bush being crit­i­cized when he so obvi­ously deserves criticism?

  12. Nadia_4iraqis says:

    Jon wrote “Even if I ate a whole cow every day, there are no cows that con­sume 5000l of water a day. Would like to know how they came up with that statistic.”

    Jon, a cow drinks a lot of water, he needs more then veg­eta­bles need to sur­vive. And above that you need to add the water that was used to grow the food that is given to it. Most of the ani­mals (for food) in Europe eat soy­beans grown in Brazil. These soy­beans need water when they grow and another side effect this has is that now a lot of rain­for­est is taken every­day to give room for these soy­beans. Forests are the ones that give us the abil­ity to breathe the air on this earth.

    I have not checked it out today, but the last time I read about it even the fish indus­try in Swe­den was talk­ing about shift­ing to giv­ing soy/vegetable food to their fish. The small fish they used to give them before is needs to be left in the oceans.
    ___________

    A lot of us human beings don’t look ahead, because if we did we would not have obe­sity prob­lems, we would not have adult dia­betes and high cho­les­terol prob­lems etc in the extent we have today. All these can be pre­vented by healthy food and exer­cise and most of us don’t do that, we have lost our respon­si­bil­ity of our own bod­ies. We wait until we are hit with the illness/disaster and then in shock and com­plain­ing hope for out­side help, God for­bid that a change in our lifestyles would be threat­ened. We’d rather fill us up with pills then take away that beef or take that exer­cise hour everyday.

    No med­ical com­pany can pro­vide us with breath­able clean air, but the forests can.

  13. Jeff says:

    A lot of us human beings don’t look ahead, because if we did we would not have obe­sity prob­lems, we would not have adult dia­betes and high cho­les­terol prob­lems etc in the extent we have today. All these can be pre­vented by healthy food and exer­cise and most of us don’t do that, we have lost our respon­si­bil­ity of our own bod­ies. We wait until we are hit with the illness/disaster and then in shock and com­plain­ing hope for out­side help, God for­bid that a change in our lifestyles would be threat­ened. We’d rather fill us up with pills then take away that beef or take that exer­cise hour everyday.

    Nadia, every­thing that you’re talk­ing about is the direct result of laziness.

    The real ques­tion should be…

    How do we cure human laziness?

  14. Jeff says:

    k…?

    Nice pic­ture by the way, are we post­ing pic­tres of dead babies now?…Does mean I get to post videos of beheadings?

  15. Jeff says:

    how did this go from lazy humans with bad diets and try­ing to save the rain for­est to dead babies?

  16. Jon says:

    Nadia– “Jon, a cow drinks a lot of water, he needs more then veg­eta­bles need to survive.”

    Thanks for jog­ging my brain. Some­how it ends up adding up to 5000l over the course of the life of the cow. I guess I’ll switch to veal then. LOL ;-)

    Was bitch­ing at my gro­cer the other day about the jackup on the price of milk. He told me that it’s because so many peo­ple sud­denly switched over to eat­ing beef as part of the new low-carb diet fad and dairy farm­ers are killing their cows for beef. It’s a crazy world out there. Every­one wants the quick fix. I’m wait­ing for a head­line in the papers that reads, “Sci­en­tists dis­cover diet and exer­cise linked to weight loss!”

    we would not have obe­sity prob­lems, we would not have adult dia­betes and high cho­les­terol prob­lems etc”

    I’m going to start a new fad diet called “The Pop­tart and Choco­late Cake Diet”. Of course it won’t work, but at least I’ll get rich!

    We’d rather fill us up with pills”

    Sadly, everyone’s been tak­ing the wrong pills. They should try thy­rox­ine supplements.

  17. Jon says:

    Yeah! What she said! *shrug*

    That’s a par­tic­u­larly foul pic­ture you linked us to… well done!

    Jeff– “how did this go from lazy humans with bad diets and try­ing to save the rain for­est to dead babies?”

    Don’t you see? It’s Bush’s plot to destroy human­ity! I can see it clearly now. ;-)

  18. Just an ordi­nary hur­ri­cane. No one would have cared if this one hit Bangladesh. Go fight ur wars dudes.

  19. Nadia_4iraqis says:

    I made the above com­ment to make it eas­ier to under­stand that we need to take the pre­ven­tive steps to save mother earth seri­ously, there is no pill that can be taken the day we lack clear breath­able air.

    The cor­po­ra­tions, indus­try are not lazy. Many of them see the changes in their pro­duc­tions that are needed because of the green­house gas emis­sions as a threat to them mak­ing more profit and even some might see it as an eco­nom­i­cal dis­as­ter. That is were a lot of pre­ven­tive work and pres­sure is needed NOW.

  20. Nadia_4iraqis says:

    The ara­bic link was about Iraq.

  21. Jeff says:

    clear breath­able air.

    So, It seems to me that you need spend some of this energy you have on try­ing to save the rain forest…The last time I checked, The rain for­est wasn’t in the US. That’s why we buy mid­dle east­ern oil, we’re to busy keep­ing our for­est intact!

    Remem­ber:

    Save the cari­bou, kill the seals””

  22. Jon says:

    Gopal– “No one would have cared if this one hit Bangladesh.”

    It’s OK. Bongladesh is way over­pop­u­lated and could use a good nat­ural disaster.

    Nadia– “That is were a lot of pre­ven­tive work and pres­sure is needed NOW.”

    I think the fig­ure is an 80% reduc­tion needed imme­di­ately. Which, face it, is frickin’ impos­si­ble. Bye bye human race!

    The ara­bic link was about Iraq.”

    Care to trans­late or were you just acti­vat­ing a sleeper cell? Just kiddin’! ;-)

    The rain for­est wasn’t in the US.”

    Not true! The BRAZILIAN rain­for­est isn’t in the US, but I hap­pen to live in a rain­for­est here in the US. Not say­ing where because I know CMAR will try to hunt me down and kill me for dis­agree­ing with him.

  23. jon: It’s OK. Bongladesh is way over­pop­u­lated and could use a good nat­ural disaster.

    I guess the same could be said of human civil­i­sa­tion in genral.

  24. Jon says:

    Gopal– “I guess the same could be said of human civil­i­sa­tion in genral.”

    Hey! We agree on some­thing! Cool.

  25. LadyBird says:

    Nadia Thanks for the link, I will pub­lish it on the front page.

  26. Jon says:

    Nadia– ” I will pub­lish it on the front page.”

    Post a warn­ing about the nasty pic­ture with it. That almost put me off my lunch.

  27. Nadia_4iraqis says:

    Its long AND very good!!!
    _________________

    Kat­rina Speaks!
    By Dr. SUSAN BLOCK

    I am Kat­rina, God­dess of the Hur­ri­cane, Super-Domme of the Super­dome, Water Witch of Dix­ieland, Mother of All Amer­i­can Dis­as­ters, your Mis­tress of Destruc­tion, your Lady of Pain. Down on your knees, Amer­ica! Lick My muddy boots, cov­ered with My spe­cial toxic gumbo of sewage, oil, lead and e-coli bac­te­ria. Sniff My soiled panties; they smell of dead babies, and so do you. You will never wash away that smell.

    You thought you’d ignore Me, didn’t you? Thought you’d just stay on your end­less vaca­tion with your per­ni­cious Perma-War rag­ing in Old Mesopotamia, just far enough away to make you feel safe. Well, didn’t I just burst through your gated com­mu­nity of clean, pressed obliv­ion with a flood of soak­ing wet, stink­ing rot­ten real­ity? Didn’t I just del­uge your world?

    Down on your knees, Amer­ica. Down in My sea of sludge. I breathe, and the winds blow. I weep, and the rains fall. Indeed, I am more ter­ri­ble than ter­ror. Yet when I warn you I’m com­ing, you ignore me.

    You blame your lead­ers, and they deserve the blame, espe­cially your Clown Pres­i­dent, Mr. Pre­emp­tive. The only attacks he’s good at pre­empt­ing are the ones on him­self. Of course, he ignored Me. What did you expect from a guy who con­tin­ued to read “My Pet Goat,” then jet­ted around aim­lessly while pas­sen­ger planes were fly­ing into the World Trade Cen­ters and Pentagon?

    But you ignored me too. You know you did. For years, I’ve been #3 on America’s list of “Worst Pos­si­ble Things Likely To Hap­pen.” I may be a nat­ural dis­as­ter, but your will­ful igno­rance has turned me into a crime against human­ity. Well, now that My clean-up is going to cost thou­sands of times what prepar­ing for Me prop­erly would have cost, per­haps you won’t ignore Me anymore.

    I am Kat­rina, Queen of Your Guilty Con­science, Empress of the Undead who haunt your deep­est feel­ings. Kneel down in My flooded streets and wor­ship My ter­ri­ble power. Suckle at My teat of tainted milk. I am Kat­rina, Water Witch of the South, Bel­ladonna of the Unsaved, Weep­ing Mother of the Chil­dren and the Elderly in wheel­chairs, mostly poor, mostly black, many dead, more sick, even more dis­placed, images debil­i­tat­ing your attempts to think about any­thing else.

    Like My Hindu Cousin Kali, I am the Destroyer. In my Dance, I destroy homes, infra­struc­tures, lives. But I also destroy igno­rance. As I dance, I strip away illu­sion. As I dance, I strip away the $14,000 Oxxford Pres­i­den­tial suits, the photo-ops and plat­i­tudes, and show the world the Lit­tle Emperor has no clothes. “Mis­sion Accom­plished!” indeed, if the mis­sion is Apoc­a­lypse New Orleans.

    As I dance, I whip the rose-colored glasses from your nose. My tears fill your eyes as I show you oth­er­worldly hor­rors unfold­ing in real time in an Amer­i­can neigh­bor­hood near you. As I dance, I strip away the white sheets, expos­ing the big­otry that seeps into soci­ety like lead in the water. As I dance, I break down walls, reveal­ing the heart­break­ing face of poverty in Amer­ica when no one comes to help. Poverty in Amer­ica, the wretched result of trickle-down Reago­nom­ics, has risen 17% under the God-invoking regime of Mr. Com­pas­sion­ate Con­ser­v­a­tive, and is still ris­ing like My waters in the Bayou. As I dance, I strip away the veils that gloss over the fact that there are Two New Orleans, and Two Amer­i­cas: the rel­a­tively secure High Ground and the poverty-stricken, drowning-in-the-muck Low Ground.

    What’s the mat­ter? You don’t like My dance? Too destruc­tive? Too reveal­ing? I’m sorry. Really, I am. I weep for you. I weep, and I rage and I destroy

    But please remem­ber, it is you who seduced Me. You let Me in. You received My weather reports, just like every­body else. You knew I was com­ing. I’m just a nat­ural female, a squirter, you might say, wild, but pre­dictable. You chose not to heed My warn­ings.
    Read more at http://www.counterpunch.org/block09092005.html

  28. Charles says:

    Um, hon­estly I didn’t read the whole thing.

    But its prob­a­bly beau­ti­ful or some­thing — right?

    So this Kat­rina bitch is all hot and both­ered about caus­ing destruc­tion in the south­ern US?

    Didn’t she used to date Michael?