What Ahmadinejad didn’t said is…

First and before I start this I just want to say one word to all Arabs and Iraqis who are sym­pa­thiz­ing with Iran:

Do not for­get that Iran who are con­demn­ing Israel for occu­py­ing Pales­tine while they (the Ira­ni­ans) are occu­py­ing an Arab land (Ahwaz) much big­ger and richer than Palestine.

I didn’t gave what Ahmadine­jad (Iran pres­i­dent) said about Israel much attention

Israel must be wiped off the map,

But what he said later was very inter­est­ing (see link):

Any­body who rec­og­nizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury,

Why would he say some­thing like this? Was acci­den­tally or there is a hid­den threat behind it?
I searched every news­pa­per look­ing for an expla­na­tion on the sub­ject but couldn’t find any, at last an arti­cle on Elaph with a very good analy­sis explained it all.

This is the trans­la­tion:

Let’s fol­low the events from the beginning:

1– Although GCC coun­tries (Gulf States) did not liked Sad­dam but they wanted to see a strong Iraq keeps the power bal­ance against Iran.

2– A strong Iraq do not exist any more, Iraq is wiped out from the map and divided into three states with a cen­tral gov­ern­ment loyal to Iran and Iraq’s south region is vir­tu­ally occu­pied by Iran, there­fore there is no power bal­ance in the region.

3– In addi­tion, the Amer­i­cans are sup­port­ing Iraq’s Shiia, which is by the def­i­n­i­tion will rein­forced Iran’s sta­tus region­ally and inter­na­tion­ally.
This is a very dif­fi­cult to under­stand, the US is fight­ing Iran polit­i­cally mean­while they are sup­port­ing Iran strategically.

4– The arrival of the new con­ser­v­a­tive gov­ern­ment to Iran gives the impres­sion that the next period will be a very dif­fi­cult one in the region.

Some talks about GCC coun­tries are pur­chas­ing weapons from USA, UK and France equal to $120 Bil­lion and at least $80 Bil­lion weapon deal between Saudi Ara­bia and UK is in its last stage.

Iran also retained a $100 bil­lion to mod­ern­ize their arms by shop­ping from Rus­sia, China and some East­ern Euro­pean States.

Rumors about some nego­ti­a­tions between Gulf States and Israel, Gulf States are try­ing to entice­ment Israel for a wide strike against Iran’s bal­lis­tic and nuclear arse­nal in exchange of the GCC coun­tries will rec­og­nize Israel imme­di­ately (after the strike), exchang­ing diplo­matic rela­tions and pur­chase Israeli weapon in the future.

So the real mes­sage from Iran to wipe off Israel from the map was a hid­den mes­sage to the Gulf states, if Israel attacked Iran the GCC coun­tries will be attacked by Iran.

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14 Responses to What Ahmadinejad didn’t said is…

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  2. Charles says:

    This is a good chance for UN to do something.

    He either recants and apol­o­gizes to world com­mu­nity, or pub­licly rede­clares his pol­icy and accepts the con­se­quences. He should not be let of the hook by his diplo­mats try­ing to tell the world: “well he really didn’t mean it…”

    Let’s see if the UN is worth its square footage in NYC real estate value.

  3. Inter­est­ing blog

  4. Charles says:

    The Observer — 5 hours ago
    Under mas­sive inter­na­tional con­dem­na­tion, Iran moved rapidly to explain that its president’s call for Israel to be ‘wiped off the map’ should in no way be taken as a threat of vio­lence. As the UN Security …

    That is just too hilarious.

  5. Nadia says:

    Off Topic: Just got this by mail



    عبدالكريم هاني
    الناطق الرسمي باسم المؤتمر التأسيسي العراقي الوطني

  6. M says:

    Kazak said that Israel’s mem­ber­ship in the UN in 1948 was con­di­tional to its accep­tance and imple­men­ta­tion of the two UN res­o­lu­tion 181, known as Par­ti­tion res­o­lu­tion, and res­o­lu­tion 194, which stated the right of the Pales­tin­ian refugees to return to their home­land as well as com­pen­sat­ing them for the loss of their property.

    Well maybe we’ll get lucky and Mr. Kazak will tell us if in fact the UN rec­og­nized Israel as a coun­try or not, and then he can tell the world when the Palestinian’s rec­og­nized the par­ti­tion plan blah, blah, blah. Come on, Nadia.

  7. Jeff says:

    Nadia, Why do you hate Jews? Is it for the same rea­sons Hitler did?

    and why are you using the UN to jus­tify your hate? Why aren’t you using the UN when it comes to Sad­dam and his violations?

  8. Jeff says:

    Here is some great news from the reli­gion of peace and love…aka Islam: Maybe we can under­stand a lit­tle bet­ter why Iran’s sand flea pres­i­dent wants to wipe out jews and christians…and who are the “new world nazis” ladybird?

    Three Indone­sian girls beheaded

    Three girls have been beheaded and another badly injured as they walked to a Chris­t­ian school in Indonesia.

    Police say the heads were found some dis­tance from the bodies.

    It is unclear what was behind the attack, but the girls attended a pri­vate Chris­t­ian school and one of the heads was left out­side a church lead­ing to spec­u­la­tion that it might have had a reli­gious motive.

  9. Bruno says:

    [lady­bird] “In addi­tion, the Amer­i­cans are sup­port­ing Iraq’s Shiia, which is by the def­i­n­i­tion will rein­forced Iran’s sta­tus region­ally and inter­na­tion­ally.

    Lady­bird, to me all that can mean is that the US is con­tem­plat­ing the demo­li­tion of either the Iran­ian gov­ern­ment or Iran as a coun­try in the near future. Given the neocon’s poli­cies towards Iran (ie– Ira­ni­ans are actu­ally Amer­i­cans in drag, wait­ing to be lib­er­ated from their evil gov­ern­ment) this is vir­tu­ally guaranteed.


    On the other hand, Iran already pos­sesses con­sid­er­able stocks of NBC weaponry. If Israel hits it, Iran will be able to hit back in the con­ven­tional sense. Israel will then be con­strained in choos­ing the nuclear option by the prospect of a mass NBC attack against it. VERY tricky situation.

  10. Jon says:

    *Time for a pretty much unre­lated quote I think…*
    ___
    “Four sor­rows … are cer­tain to be vis­ited on the United States.

    Their cumu­la­tive effect guar­an­tees that the U.S. will cease to resem­ble the coun­try out­lined in the Con­sti­tu­tion of 1787.

    First, there will be a state of per­pet­ual war, lead­ing to more ter­ror­ism against Amer­i­cans wher­ever they may be and a spread­ing reliance on nuclear weapons among smaller nations as they try to ward off the impe­r­ial juggernaut.

    Sec­ond is a loss of democ­racy and Con­sti­tu­tional rights as the pres­i­dency eclipses Con­gress and is itself trans­formed from a co-equal ‘exec­u­tive branch’ of gov­ern­ment into a mil­i­tary junta.

    Third is the replace­ment of truth by pro­pa­ganda, dis­in­for­ma­tion, and the glo­ri­fi­ca­tion of war, power, and the mil­i­tary legions.

    Lastly, there is bank­ruptcy, as the United States pours its eco­nomic resources into ever more grandiose mil­i­tary projects and short­changes the edu­ca­tion, health, and safety of its cit­i­zens.“
    –Chalmers John­son, Sor­rows of Empire

  11. Hank says:

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    TEHERAN, IRAN: Pres­i­dent call­ing for ISRAEL TO BE WIPED OFF MAP
    By Behrouz Mehri — USA Today:

    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s hard-line pres­i­dent called for Israel to be “wiped off the map” and said a new wave of Pales­tin­ian attacks will destroy the Jew­ish state, state-run media reported Wednesday.

    Pres­i­dent Mah­moud Ahmadine­jad also denounced attempts to rec­og­nize Israel or nor­mal­ize rela­tions with it.

    There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Pales­tine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world,” Ahmadine­jad told stu­dents Wednes­day dur­ing a Tehran con­fer­ence called “The World with­out Zionism.”

    Any­body who rec­og­nizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury, (while) any (Islamic leader) who rec­og­nizes the Zion­ist regime means he is acknowl­edg­ing the sur­ren­der and defeat of the Islamic world,” Ahmadine­jad said.

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    Quotes on Jews

    The Hebrews have done more to civ­i­lize men than any other nation. If I were an athe­ist, and believed blind eter­nal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essen­tial instru­ment for civ­i­liz­ing the nations.
    – John Adams

    There is no greater com­pli­ment to the Jews than the fact that the degree of their unpop­u­lar­ity is always the sci­en­tific mea­sure of the cru­elty and silli­ness of the regime under which they live.
    Sin­clair Lewis

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    ZENIT

    INTERNATIONAL NEWS AGENCY
    http://www.zenit.org/english

    Date : 26.10.2005

    NEW YORK, OCT. 26, 2005 (Zenit.org).- A Jew­ish leader con­sid­ers the Sec­ond Vat­i­can Council’s dec­la­ra­tion “Nos­tra Aetate” of 40 years ago a land­mark that com­pletely rede­fined rela­tions between Catholics and Jews.

    Baruch Ten­em­baum, pres­i­dent and founder of the Inter­na­tional Raoul Wal­len­berg Foun­da­tion, recalled the impor­tance, in this con­nec­tion, of the elec­tion of Car­di­nal Angelo Ron­calli to the papacy in 1958.

    With the advent of the Good Pope on the throne of Peter an extra­or­di­nary rev­o­lu­tion began within the Catholic Church, pro­moted from the word and action of the Sec­ond Vat­i­can Coun­cil, a his­toric land­mark that com­pletely rede­fined the rela­tion­ship between the Church and Judaism,” the Argentina-born Ten­em­baum told ZENIT.

    Pope John XXIII con­voked the coun­cil that on Oct. 28, 1965, would pub­lish that dec­la­ra­tion on the rela­tions of the Church with non-Christian religions.

    This point of change in the his­tory of Judeo-Catholic rela­tions was not a chance result or polit­i­cal oppor­tunism,” Ten­em­baum said. “It was the tes­ti­mony that con­firmed a new atti­tude toward the Jew­ish peo­ple, a real trans­for­ma­tion orig­i­nat­ing in the sen­ti­ments and pro­found sense of rec­on­cil­i­a­tion of John XXIII.”

    As a result, in 2000 Ten­em­baum estab­lished the Angelo Ron­calli Com­mit­tee for recog­ni­tion of the human­i­tar­ian action shown by the papal nun­cio Arch­bishop Ron­calli in favor of peo­ple per­se­cuted by the Nazi regime.

    Roncalli’s risks

    He said that, accord­ing to research reports car­ried out by this com­mit­tee, “Angelo Ron­calli risked his posi­tion and secu­rity by pro­vid­ing thou­sands of Turk­ish visas, ‘tem­po­rary’ bap­tismal cer­tifi­cates, and immi­gra­tion cer­tifi­cates, autho­riz­ing the entry to Pales­tine of Hun­gar­ian Jews per­se­cuted by the Nazis.”

    Accord­ing to tes­ti­monies given at the Nurem­berg tri­als, his inter­ven­tions helped to save tens of thou­sands of peo­ple,” Ten­em­baum con­tin­ued. “Catholic sources point out that about 80,000 cer­tifi­cates were issued. Ron­calli was also involved in the fate of Jews of France, Slo­va­kia, Croa­tia, Bul­garia, Roma­nia and Italy.

    Mon­signor Ron­calli not only acted directly to save thou­sands of men, women and chil­dren con­demned to exter­mi­na­tion, but he was also a tire­less per­son who, dur­ing the war, denounced before the Vat­i­can and Allied nations the geno­cide car­ried out by the Nazis.

    The tenac­ity and deter­mined com­mit­ment of Mon­signor Ron­calli with those who were suf­fer­ing, his broad judg­ment and prophetic vision, explain the coher­ence of his life and work. Human­ity still has much to learn from his won­der­ful apostolate.”

    With the pres­ence of Car­di­nal Angelo Sodano, Vat­i­can sec­re­tary of state, the Ron­calli Com­mit­tee paid homage to the mem­ory of John XXIII on Sept. 7, 2000, in the Holy See’s mis­sion to the United Nations. The launch­ing of the Angelo Ron­calli Inter­na­tional Com­mit­tee was announced on that occasion.

    In 2001, the Wal­len­berg Foun­da­tion pub­lished research doc­u­ment­ing the works car­ried out by Arch­bishop Ron­calli, as apos­tolic del­e­gate in Istan­bul, for those per­se­cuted dur­ing the Holocaust.

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    Israel wel­comes Quartet’s statement

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    herb keinon and nathan guttman, THE JERUSALEM POST Octo­ber 30, 2005

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    Israel wel­comed a state­ment issued by the Quar­tet on Fri­day call­ing on Syria to close the offices of the Pales­tin­ian Islamic Jihad in Dam­as­cus, say­ing this gives key inter­na­tional back­ing to Israel’s oft-repeated claims that Dam­as­cus har­bors Pales­tin­ian ter­ror­ist organizations.

    We have been say­ing for years the Syr­i­ans should close down the offices of Islamic Jihad in Dam­as­cus, and the Syr­i­ans have always said that these are just infor­ma­tion offices or have been closed down, and that this is all just Israeli pro­pa­ganda,” said For­eign Min­istry spokesman Mark Regev, who char­ac­ter­ized the Quar­tet state­ment as “very important.”

    Regev said this was the first time the inter­na­tional com­mu­nity has rec­og­nized that Pales­tin­ian ter­ror­ist groups are oper­at­ing out of Damascus.

    The minute the inter­na­tional com­mu­nity issues a state­ment like this, it is no longer Jerusalem against Dam­as­cus, but now the whole world is involved,” Regev said.

    The Quar­tet is a diplo­matic entity made up of the US, Rus­sia, the Euro­pean Union and the UN. The state­ment fol­lowed a con­fer­ence call that included US Sec­re­tary of State Con­doleezza Rice, British For­eign Sec­re­tary Jack Straw, Russ­ian For­eign Min­is­ter Sergei Lavrov, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, and EU for­eign pol­icy chief Javier Solana.

    The Quar­tet state­ment came in response to the ter­ror­ist attack Wednes­day in Hadera, for which Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

    The Quar­tet urges the Syr­ian gov­ern­ment to take imme­di­ate action to close the offices of Pales­tin­ian Islamic Jihad and to pre­vent the use of its ter­ri­tory by armed groups engaged in ter­ror­ist acts,” the joint state­ment read.

    At the same time, the Quar­tet also urged all sides to exer­cise restraint in order to avoid fur­ther esca­la­tion in the sit­u­a­tion, say­ing in its state­ment that “the Quar­tet believes it is imper­a­tive that all involved act deci­sively to ensure that ter­ror and vio­lence are not allowed to under­mine fur­ther progress in accor­dance with the road map.”

    Try­ing to fend off the lat­est inter­na­tional charge over its alleged ties to Pales­tin­ian ter­ror­ists, an uniden­ti­fied Syr­ian For­eign Min­istry offi­cial said yes­ter­day that Islamic Jihad’s mil­i­tary activ­i­ties were planned from the Pales­tin­ian ter­ri­to­ries and that the Dam­as­cus offices of the group were closed long ago, accord­ing to com­ments car­ried by Syria’s state-run news agency.

    Dinah A. Spritzer

    Neo-Nazis rally on Oct. 28 in front of the Ger­man embassy in Prague to protest Germany´s incar­cer­a­tion of Holo­caust denier Ernst Zundel.

    Coun­ter­pro­test­ers in Prague
    shout down a neo-Nazi rally

    By: Dinah A. Spritzer

    PRAGUE, Oct. 30 (JTA) — Hol­i­days in the Czech Repub­lic are a time for get­ting away to the coun­try with the fam­ily.
    But 150 Prague res­i­dents, includ­ing many well-known Czech per­son­al­i­ties, sac­ri­ficed last Fri­day, Czechoslo­vak Inde­pen­dence Day, to rally against a neo-Nazi demonstration.

    Some 60 neo-Nazis gath­ered in front of the Ger­man Embassy to protest the incar­cer­a­tion in Ger­many of Holo­caust denier Ernst Zun­del, deported from Canada to his native Ger­many in March and charged with incit­ing hatred by send­ing mate­ri­als over the Internet.

    Before they assem­bled, a crowd, bar­ri­caded by police for their own pro­tec­tion, had already assem­bled to pre­vent the neo-Nazis from being heard.

    Lud­mila Hellerova, 77, a Holo­caust sur­vivor who was car­ry­ing an Israeli flag, walked into the neo-Nazi throng, say­ing neo-Nazism leads to Nazism and Nazism leads to the Holocaust.

    The young peo­ple turned their backs to Hellerova and shouted at her to shut up.

    There was unprece­dented media cov­er­age dis­cussing the planned neo-Nazi demon­stra­tion on all three national tele­vi­sion sta­tions and in the lead­ing daily news­pa­pers, which car­ried edi­to­ri­als denounc­ing what they called the mis­use of freedom-of-speech advocacy.

    The neo-Nazis have gath­er­ings on Czech national hol­i­days at least twice a year, but only once before have they tried to express a spe­cific polit­i­cal mes­sage. In 2003 they sought to march through Prague’s Jew­ish Quar­ter to protest what they called the Israeli Holo­caust against the Pales­tini­ans, but Prague author­i­ties steered them into a another part of town.

    Fol­low­ing a dra­matic increase in the num­ber of neo-Nazi con­certs in the Czech Repub­lic this year, the police have faced harsh crit­i­cism from politi­cians and even the for­eign min­is­ter for fail­ing to pre­vent the gath­er­ings or make arrests. The rally was led by the National Resis­tance, the country’s most vis­i­ble neo-Nazi organization.

    In response to a let­ter by the Fed­er­a­tion of Jew­ish Com­mu­ni­ties stat­ing that the neo-Nazis should not be allowed to demon­strate, Prague city offi­cials said they could not pre­vent the neo-Nazis from gath­er­ing, but the police, who were out in force, did make two arrests.

    Asked repeat­edly by JTA if he thought the Holo­caust had not occurred, he refused to answer.

    Mean­while, there was some debate among coun­ter­pro­test­ers who were con­cerned about free speech and asked whether it was wise for the coun­ter­pro­test­ers to con­tin­u­ally shout down the neo-Nazis, who unsuc­cess­fully tried to make their speeches heard through the din of whistling and shout­ing. Their pam­phlet argued that Zundel’s incar­cer­a­tion with­out trial was counter to Europe’s com­mit­ment to human rights.

    In con­trast, an Auschwitz sur­vivor, 84-year-old Jan Fis­cher, told JTA dur­ing the coun­ter­protest that no one has the right to pro­mul­gate a lie.

    BP Images

    An Israeli secu­rity offi­cer looks at cov­ered bod­ies amid the dam­age at the Hadera mar­ket, the site of a Pales­tin­ian sui­cide attack on Oct. 26 that killed five Israelis.

    Israeli Arab, retired fac­tory worker
    among those killed in sui­cide blast

    By: Dina Kraft

    HADERA, Israel, Oct. 27 (JTA) — Sur­rounded by scat­tered apples and onions, the blue-and-white check­ered blan­ket cov­ered most of the body lying on the pave­ment. But it was not quite long enough to cover the body’s feet.
    The body belonged to one of the five vic­tims mur­dered by a sui­cide bomber’s explo­sives in the Hadera mar­ket on Wednes­day — among them an Israeli Arab who taught Hebrew in nearby schools and a retired fac­tory worker who was watch­ing his friend’s veg­etable shop.

    The bomber det­o­nated him­self on a street lined with tow­er­ing euca­lyp­tus trees in front of one of Hadera’s old­est and most pop­u­lar falafel stands, Falafel Barzi­lai. After the bomb­ing, the awning over the stand was left burned to shreds, and pars­ley and green onions spilled out from upturned plas­tic crates.

    The bomber was iden­ti­fied as Has­san Abu Zayd, 20. He was report­edly freed from Israeli prison recently as part of a pris­oner release because he had not killed any Israelis.

    Islamic Jihad claimed respon­si­bil­ity for the attack, say­ing it came in retal­i­a­tion for Israel’s killing of one of the group’s lead­ers, Luay Saadi, on Sun­day in the West Bank.

    Near the scene of the bomb­ing, locals gath­ered to get a closer look. Some were yeshiva stu­dents, oth­ers were par­ents with young chil­dren. Among them was Yigal Cohen, 43, whose father’s veg­etable stand stood next door to the falafel stand. His father had left shortly before the bomb­ing to attend the memo­r­ial ser­vice for his own father at a nearby ceme­tery. The father’s friend, Ya’akov Rah­mani, 68, had agreed to watch the stand. He was killed in the blast.

    Cohen stood behind the police tape and looked at the destruc­tion, his eyes wide and unbelieving.

    Mimi Shosha, a 56-year-old sec­re­tary, sur­veyed the smol­der­ing mar­ket, shat­tered glass cov­er­ing its sidewalks.

    As she spoke, foren­sic work­ers in white jump­suits picked through spilled veg­eta­bles and debris, col­lect­ing evi­dence. Swarms of police and bor­der police blocked off the area. Slowly the bod­ies were placed in plas­tic white bags and qui­etly hoisted onto ambulances.

    The five dead included Jamil Ka’adan, 48, of the Arab town of Baka Al-Gharbiye. The father of five taught Hebrew. He was at the mar­ket Wednes­day after decid­ing to go to the bank before head­ing home.

    Sabiha Nisim, 66, from Moshav Ahi­tov, retired recently and was in the mar­ket to get a falafel when the bomb went off, killing her. Her hus­band, Aharon, report­edly hugged her body and would not leave the mar­ket until he was taken away by emer­gency work­ers. Nisim was the mother of six chil­dren and had eight grandchildren.

    One of the dead in Hadera, a city with a large pop­u­la­tion of immi­grants from the for­mer Soviet Union, was Mikhail Koif­man, 68, who immi­grated to Israel in 1993 from Uzbek­istan. He is sur­vived by his wife, two chil­dren and grandchildren.

    Pirhia Mahlouf, 53, a bank employee was also killed in the bomb­ing. She had been in the mar­ket to shop for a meal for her two daugh­ters who were about to begin college.

    AROUND THE JEWISH WORLD
    Sixty years late, Slo­vak offi­cials
    apol­o­gize for anti-Semitic pogrom

    By: Dinah Spritzer

    TOPOLCANY, Slo­va­kia, Oct. 30 (JTA) — Offi­cials in a Slo­vak town have apol­o­gized to local Jews for a pogrom in Sep­tem­ber 1945, shortly after the end of World War II.

    Topol­cany today has a pop­u­la­tion of approx­i­mately 15,000. Some 3,000 Jews lived there before the war. About 10 per­cent sur­vived the Holo­caust and returned from con­cen­tra­tion camps, only to face the anti-Semitic wrath of their neigh­bors, wit­nesses recalled.

    Jan Emila, Topolcany’s deputy mayor, said it was hard to find proper words for the apol­ogy. Some coun­cilors said they should wait for a com­ment from the Insti­tute of National Memory.

    Alexan­der noted that the apol­ogy had been in the works for some time, thanks to pres­sure from the federation.

    Israeli his­to­rian Robert Buch­ler said the riot against Topol­cany Jews on Sept. 24, 1945, was pro­voked by a rumor that a Jew­ish doc­tor was inject­ing chil­dren with a poi­so­nous serum. Dur­ing the pogrom, 48 peo­ple were seri­ously injured, accord­ing to the federation.

    Dur­ing World War II, Slo­va­kia was a pup­pet fas­cist state that coop­er­ated with Nazi Ger­many. The regime paid Ger­many 500 Ger­man marks for each Jew deprived of Slo­vak cit­i­zen­ship and deported to con­cen­tra­tion camps. Some 70,000 Slo­vak Jews were sent to exter­mi­na­tion camps, where most of them perished.

    Another sur­vivor of the pogrom, Dr. Jaroslav Ger­hart, blamed it on the state­ments and posi­tions of Slo­vak politi­cians, includ­ing priest Jozef Tiso, pres­i­dent of the wartime government.

    The issue remains con­tro­ver­sial, even today.

    Less than a year ago, the Slo­vak pub­lic TV com­pany broad­cast a doc­u­men­tary about the pogrom, but the film, which doc­u­mented the hatred against Topolcany’s Jew­ish pop­u­la­tion, caused unin­tended controversy.

    The sta­tion direc­tor halted the screen­ing shortly before the sched­uled broad­cast because of extreme anti-Semitic state­ments made by one res­i­dent in the film. The sta­tion direc­tor said air­ing the pro­gram could vio­late laws against racial and national defamation.

    Crit­ics, includ­ing Jew­ish groups, argued that the pro­gram needed to be seen so that an open debate about cur­rent anti-Semitism could be held in Slo­va­kia. Fol­low­ing protests, the film was broadcast.

    ARTS & CULTURE
    As a bevy of new films shows,
    Holo­caust still on the Ger­man mind
    By Tom Tugend
    LOS ANGELES, Oct. 30 (JTA) — Sixty-seven years ago, on Nov. 9, 1938, Nazi-organized mobs burned and looted thou­sands of Ger­man syn­a­gogues and Jew­ish stores dur­ing Kristall­nacht, the open­ing salvo of the Holo­caust.
    How are the grand­chil­dren of the per­pe­tra­tors deal­ing with this legacy? Four new Ger­man movies show that far from for­get­ting its nation’s past, today’s gen­er­a­tion is still wrestling with it, at times obsessively.

    Joseph Goebbels was the bril­liant pro­pa­ganda min­is­ter — Reich liar-general — of the Nazi regime, and he kept volu­mi­nous diaries through­out his life.

    What the film does is to let Goebbels speak for 107 min­utes, via the Eng­lish nar­ra­tion of actor-director Ken­neth Branagh, while illus­trat­ing the words with appro­pri­ate news clips.

    Goebbels was a man of unpre­pos­sess­ing appear­ance — small, sallow-faced and born with a clubfoot.

    While to the out­side, the Nazi lead­er­ship pre­sented a solid front, united in devo­tion to Hitler, the diaries present a pic­ture of bit­ter rival­ries and palace intrigues.

    The doc­u­men­tary reveals Goebbels, through his own words, as vain, ambi­tious and a wom­an­izer who deluded his peo­ple until the final moment through his total and skill­ful con­trol of the country’s pro­pa­ganda apparatus.

    In the end, he proved his loy­alty to Hitler by hav­ing his wife, Magda, poi­son their five chil­dren in Hitler’s bunker, and then car­ry­ing out a mutual death pact with his wife.

    Grad­u­a­tion from a nap­ola guar­an­teed a bright future career and this prospect lures 16-year-old Friedrich. Though he comes from a Communist-leaning work­ing class fam­ily, Friedrich looks the ideal Aryan type and is a promis­ing boxer.

    He fits right in until he befriends Albrecht, who, as an unatheletic sen­si­tive book reader, is obvi­ously out of place. Albrecht is there because his father, the regional Nazi gov­er­nor, has the pull to force his son into the elite school.

    But when Albrecht protests the mas­sacre of unarmed Soviet pris­on­ers of war in the nearby woods, the story turns tragic. Friedrich stands up for his dis­graced friend and is expelled.

    Direc­tor Den­nis Gansel, only 31, said in a phone inter­view that he made the pow­er­ful film of youth­ful friend­ship and rebel­lion to appeal to today’s Ger­man teenagers.

    Gansel got an inside pic­ture of life in a nap­ola through his grand­fa­ther, who served as an instruc­tor at an institute.

    Scholl, a belated hero­ine in post­war Ger­many, was a 21-year-old uni­ver­sity stu­dent in Munich, who with her brother and some friends, orga­nized the resis­tance group called The White Rose.

    In 1943, while sur­rep­ti­tiously stash­ing anti-Nazi leaflets at the uni­ver­sity, she was caught, put through a show trial, and beheaded by a guillotine.

    The film is car­ried by the shat­ter­ing per­for­mance of Julia Jentsch as Sophie, who stands up under Gestapo inter­ro­ga­tion and chooses death rather than recant her beliefs.

    This is a film that gets its laughs and warmth by show­ing what hap­pens when a com­pletely sec­u­lar and assim­i­lated Jew has to host a fer­vently Ortho­dox Jew.

    His for­tunes look up when he hears that his mother has died, leav­ing a size­able estate. The catch is that as a con­di­tion of the inher­i­tance he must rec­on­cile with his long-estranged brother Samuel, a fer­vently Ortho­dox real estate tycoon from Frankfurt.

    When Samuel announces that he is com­ing with his fam­ily to Berlin to sit shiva at Jaeckie’s house, the gam­bler and his gen­tile wife panic. They take an instant crash course in Judaism and load up on mezuzahs, meno­rahs and kosher food.

    The encounter between the dis­parate broth­ers is good for just about every joke on the themes of Com­mu­nist vs. cap­i­tal­ist, East vs. West Ger­many, and reli­gious vs. agnos­tic Jew — with Chasid vs. les­bian and mama’s boy vs. sex bomb thrown in for good measure.

  12. Charles says:

    @Bruno

    Lady­bird, to me all that can mean is that the US is con­tem­plat­ing the demo­li­tion of either the Iran­ian gov­ern­ment or Iran as a coun­try in the near future. Given the neocon’s poli­cies towards Iran (ie– Ira­ni­ans are actu­ally Amer­i­cans in drag, wait­ing to be lib­er­ated from their evil gov­ern­ment) this is vir­tu­ally guaranteed.

    Or maybe just per­haps the US is try­ing to sup­port its stated pol­icy of pro­mot­ing democ­racy in Iraq? Eh? Iraq has a shia major­ity so obvi­ously they will be heav­ily rep­re­sented in a democracy.

    The only other con­ceiv­able alternative

    You have a very lim­ited imagination.

    Yup = ots all about the evil jews…

    … an oil rich South Iraq would exist, hope­fully cor­rupted to the US rather than the Iran­ian agenda.

    Sure Bruno — the US just DOMINATES the south. Just look at all of our pup­pets in power.

    Imag­ine if the South of Iraq goes up in flames again – not only with Al Sadr, this time.

    An anti-US wet dream to be sure. Go clean your sheets.

    I don’t see the US posi­tion in Iraq as ten­able thereafter.

    Nor would it be ten­able after a sta­ble demo­c­ra­tic Iraq told the US to leave.

    On the other hand, Iran already pos­sesses con­sid­er­able stocks of NBC weaponry. If Israel hits it, Iran will be able to hit back in the con­ven­tional sense. Israel will then be con­strained in choos­ing the nuclear option by the prospect of a mass NBC attack against it. VERY tricky situation.

    As I said, go change your sheets.