The night before the bombing: Two eyewitnesses

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Update: There was one small mis­take in the trans­la­tion, the time line says 6,41 should be 6,45, that’s all.

I want the read­ers to know that for Samarra inhab­i­tants, the mosques doesn’t rep­re­sents a Shiia shrines only but rep­re­sents the exis­tence of the city also and they are very proud of them, even when the sit­u­a­tion went very bad between Sunni and Shiia, Shiia pil­grim­ages to city never attacked by any group, it’s kind of unwrit­ten code of honor.

Tes­ti­monies of two eye­wit­nesses near the bombed Dome:

Wit­ness 1:

I live in a dis­trict very near to the mosque and I will tell you exactly what I saw hours before the bombing.

There is a daily cur­few in our city (Samarra) starts from 8,00 in the evening until 6,00 in the morn­ing, in the night before the bomb­ing and just when it’s get­ting dark there was unusual activ­i­ties by the ING in the area around the mosque, I heard their cars the whole night until next day in the morning.

The Mosque Guards tes­ti­mony says: Four peo­ple with ING uni­forms blind folded them and set the bombs.

The wit­ness con­tin­ues, so ask I you how could the ter­ror­ists enter the area which is usu­ally sur­rounded by the ING and enter the mosque then run­way with­out being got by the police?.

Wit­ness 2:

Wit­ness 2 gives more detailed infor­ma­tion and the Amer­i­cans con­nec­tion to the events before the bomb­ing, so I made it as time­line of the events.

My name is Muham­mad Al-Samarrai, I own an internet-cafe near the mosque, I sleep in my shop because I am worry about my com­put­ers from thieves.

8,30 (evening) joint forces of Iraqi ING and Amer­i­cans asked me to stay in the shop and don’t leave the area.

9,00 (evening) they left the area.

11,00 (evening) they came back and started to patrol the area until the morning.

6,00 (next day morn­ing) ING leave the area .

6,30 Amer­i­cans leave the area .

6,40 first explosion.

6,45 sec­ond explosion.

He con­firmed again that the cur­few starts at 8,00 (evening) until next day 6,00 (morn­ing), INGs and the Amer­i­cans will sur­round and patrol the city all that time.

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  8. Keld Bach says:

    Very inter­est­ing, LB. I would like to post it on Newsvine too, if you don’t mind? You’ll get full credit, of course ;-)

  9. Keld Bach says:

    BTW, why don’t you do it your­self? I’ll just seed it then ;-)

  10. LadyBird says:

    I posted it on newsvine

  11. Keld Bach says:

    Newsvine is just as easy as WP — but nev­er­mind, LB, I’ll do it ;-)

    Just saw this one: Dozens Slain in Iraq Sec­tar­ian Vio­lence:

    Gun­men shot dead 47 civil­ians and left their bod­ies in a ditch near Bagh­dad Thurs­day as mili­tia bat­tles and sec­tar­ian reprisals fol­lowed the bomb­ing of a sacred Shi­ite shrine. Sunni Arabs sus­pended their par­tic­i­pa­tion in talks on a new government.

    The hard­line Sunni Cler­i­cal Asso­ci­a­tion of Mus­lim Schol­ars said 168 Sunni mosques had been attacked, 10 imams killed and 15 abducted since the shrine attack. The Inte­rior Min­istry said it could only con­firm fig­ures for Bagh­dad, where 90 mosques were attacked in Bagh­dad, one cleric was killed, and one abducted.

    Offi­cials said at least 110 peo­ple had been killed across the coun­try in vio­lence believed trig­gered by the mosque attack.

    Three jour­nal­ists work­ing for Al-Arabiya tele­vi­sion were found dead in Samarra, the site of Wednesday’s Askariya mosque attack. Al-Arabiya is viewed in Iraq as favor­ing the United States.

    Looks pretty bad, I think.

  12. Keld Bach says:

    OK, I didn’t see your last comment ;-)

  13. LadyBird says:

    I have the “Sunni Cler­i­cal Asso­ci­a­tion of Mus­lim Schol­ars” let­ter in Ara­bic I will trans­late it later

  14. Keld Bach says:

    Your arti­cle looks great at Newsvine, but maybe you should add a few more tags like sunni, shiia, samarra, etc. — then more peo­ple will find it.

    NB: please notice that they have cho­sen me as one of today’s Fea­tured Writes in the cat­e­gory ‘Pol­i­tics’ — I’m so proud ;-)

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  17. GC says:

    Now I am confused–yesterday ‘some­one’ said the US did this because Sam­mara was inac­ce­si­ble to them, but today we learn they are doing patrols around the shrine of all places and used those patrols to divert atten­tion from the four ING sabo­teurs who didn’t even bother to go under dis­guise into the area which was so hos­tile that it was inac­ce­si­ble. They apa­prently spent hours in a most hosi­tle area with­out draw­ing the atten­tion of the pop­u­la­tion which the day before pre­vented them from enter­ing the city lim­its. I know logic doesn’t have a lot of value when it intrudes upon desired ver­sions of events, but can’t you do bet­ter than this? If this was actu­ally a ‘secret’ US mis­sion, don’t you think they could do bet­ter than patrols in an inac­ce­si­ble area using uni­formed bombers tak­ing hours to accom­plish the deed? This ver­sion is about as sub­tle as 500lb bombs from a B52 doing vic­tory rolls over the rub­ble. You have to at least make it seem a lit­tle more secre­tive if you want it to be believ­able. Well, maybe not to your with your tar­get audi­ence. They are will­ing to believe any­thing that does not con­front the hatred they have for one another–better to direct it elsewhere.

  18. LadyBird says:

    Easy to explain, inac­ces­si­ble, doesn’t mean the US can’t enter the city, they can enter the city sur­rounded by hun­dreds of Iraqi ING dur­ing the cur­few time in the night while it’s dark but they don’t have a base inside the city or rep­re­sen­ta­tives or any­thing, the near­est Amer­i­can “base” to samarra is few kilo­me­ters out­side the city and they can’t say any­thing about how and who run the city.

    Remem­ber, these activ­i­ties like patrolling the city, US sol­dier can’t do dur­ing a nor­mal day­light, in day­light they are out­side the city set­ting roads checkpoints.

  19. This is a great pic­ture. It brought tears to my eyes. Life here becomes incred­i­bly hard and ter­ri­ble. I wish this was a night­mare and we all wake up and for­get about it. but it is not. it is real­lity that there are cer­tain peo­ple are try­ing to drag Iraq into a civil war. May God help us all!

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  22. Charles says:

    LB,

    A typ­i­cal provoca­tive, uncor­rob­o­rated, con­tra­dic­tory, illog­i­cal post designed to push peo­ple over the edge towards violence.

    You will do any­thing to under­mine stability.

    This event will either be a com­ing together as peo­ple pull back from the cliffs edge in hor­ror — or it will be the provo­ca­tion that sends peo­ple head­long over the top.

    If there are any voices of mod­er­a­tion that have yet to speak, now is the time. There are obvi­ously pow­er­ful, orga­nized forces behind this but their force is rel­a­tive. Even if there are 500,000 rad­i­cals hell bent on mur­der and may­hem, don’t let them decide for the other 24,500,000.

    Watch the state­ments and most impor­tantly the actions of your var­i­ous lead­ers. Any­one esca­lat­ing ten­sions should be crossed off your list, and you should rally behind who­ever pushes hard­est for calm. Just make it through this cri­sis, let tem­pers sub­side. The peo­ple behind this are delib­er­ately try­ing to inflame pas­sions because they know peo­ple will be eas­ier to manipulate.

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  24. Charles says:

    LB,

    My mis­take. The sec­ond part of my mes­sage wasn’t directed at you. I know you are not really a ‘bagh­dad dweller.’

    The lead­ers ‘on the back of US tanks’ were elected by the Iraqi people.

    You have made it clear plenty of times that you don’t con­sider Iraqis who actu­ally live in Iraq as ‘reg­u­lar’ Iraqis. You think that you and Nadia liv­ing in north­ern Europe are the true Iraqis.

  25. LadyBird says:

    What the hell are you talk­ing about???

    You have made it clear plenty of times that you don’t con­sider Iraqis who actu­ally live in Iraq as ‘reg­u­lar’ Iraqis.

  26. Charles says:

    LB,

    To quote:

    Doesn’t mat­ter who is the new PM, they are all pup­pets and reg­u­lar Iraqis are not inter­ested in who is the new PM.

    I’m not sure how you define ‘reg­u­lar.’ Since the vast major­ity of true Iraqis turned out to vote in both par­lia­men­tary elec­tions, you are both quan­ti­ta­tively and qual­i­ta­tively incor­rect. This shouldn’t sur­prise any objec­tive observer of your blog.

    You did not vote because you don’t give a damn. Reg­u­lar Iraqis do not share your con­tempt for their country.

    You then tried to prove your claim by link­ing to some arti­cle that shows that petro­leum pro­duc­tion, etc., is down. All that proves is that the ter­ror­ists who you seem to con­sider to be ‘reg­u­lar’ Iraqis, have been quite suc­cess­ful in destroy­ing THEIR OWN COUNTRY’s infra­struc­ture, and cre­at­ing a cli­mate of inse­cu­rity that stops devel­op­ment projects and invest­ment. Congrats!

    That being said, the very same link you pro­vided shows that gen­eral elec­tric­ity pro­duc­tion per capita is up between 25–125% depend­ing upon region.

    The link clearly shows that the vast major­ity of reg­u­lar Iraqis sup­port the elec­tion, and con­sider the results legitimate.

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  31. IEDwins says:

    @ALL

    Who is gain­ing any­thing from this crim­i­nal act of sabotage ?

    The Sun­nis ? No def­i­nitely not. They want to defeat the US occu­pa­tion and the ING col­lab­o­ra­tors not Shi’ite shrines.

    The Shi’ites ? Maybe but when than the Shia ING col­lab­o­ra­tors — in order to make to cre­ate civil war for their US mas­ter — so that they keep stay­ing in Iraq. Cause with­out civil war the US has no fake rea­son left to stay in Iraq.

    The Iran­ian Secret Ser­vice ? Pos­si­ble, as it might be pos­si­ble that Iran wants to incite more Shias to go after US and col­lab­o­raters in Iraq. But Iran def­i­nitely does not need to do this by bomb­ing Shia mosques, where­fore it is very unlikely Iran is behind it.
    Iran sim­ply could order its agent Sis­tani to pro­claim, that the US has to leave Iraq, or Shias will start Jihad against the US kuf­fars. That would be enough to start large Shia resis­tance against the US and the UK forces in Iraq, so no need for the Ira­ni­ans to do Mosque-bombing.

    US spe­cial forces in under­cover mis­sion ? Also pos­si­ble but not likely as they have oth­ers to do the crim­i­nal job.

    The US CIAda Organ­i­sa­tion in Iraq/Mossad and its jerks the kur­dish pesh­mer­gas ? Also likely, but of cause not Israeli agents because they have their Iraqi ING stooges (kur­dish pesh­mer­gas) to do the trick.
    The USraelis most ben­e­fit from the crim­i­nal bomb­ing — as civil war gives them a rea­son to fur­ther stay in Iraq and exploit the coun­try. Civil war between Sun­nis and Shias would weaken the Shias as well as the Sun­nis, who both hate the US and the Israelis. While the kurds for their part are also ben­e­fit­ing from it, as they are against both the Shia and the Sun­nis and do sup­port, as well as get sup­ported by the Usraelis.

    So finally it boils down to these suspects:

    Most prob­a­bly

    1.) Kur­dish ING forces instructed by the Iraqi Inte­ri­ory Mossad Ministry

    or

    2.) US spe­cial forces in under­cover mis­sion ( unlikely as stated above)

    What do you say ?

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  33. Keld Bach says:

    IED­wins, your analy­sis sounds quite rea­son­able to me. I didn’t think of the Kurds in that con­nec­tion, but it’s obvi­ous to me that any­thing that can pro­vide the US with a good rea­son for stay­ing on, is highly appre­ci­ated. And of course, Israel ben­e­fits greatly, too — espe­cially if they are going to attack Iran later this year.

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  35. Charles says:

    IED,

    It seems you are in the habit of look­ing at words but not read­ing them.

    When I read the words: “Cause with­out civil war the US has no fake rea­son left to stay in Iraq”, I actu­ally think about them. What does it mean? What assump­tions are being made? Do those assump­tions make any sense? Do they con­tra­dict any other assumptions?

    To begin with, the US has been in Iraq for about 3 years and there has not been a civil war. A civil war is obvi­ously not a nec­es­sary con­di­tion for US troops to be in the country.

    Sec­ond, how would the US ben­e­fit from a civil war? You are prob­a­bly one of those con­vinced that the US is in Iraq to steal resources. But how can that be done effi­ciently in the mid­dle of a war when the pipelines are being sab­o­taged, and bil­lions are being spent (more than the value of the oil), and peo­ple are dying?

    Think before you write.

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  44. LadyBird says:

    Nadia I am at my work right now, can’t use the Inter­net for too long time (I am very busy), but I hope every­thing is fine and noth­ing happened.

    I will check your answer when I go back home

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