Hi all
I am in Beirout right bow, I am writing about the press conference by Bushra Khalil (female memeber of Saddam’s defense team) yesterday here in beirout.
I just wanted to add this before I leave
from reading the comments, I noticed many (mostly Americans) use the word (Left or Leftie), I know it’s a kind of virtual war between Left and Right in the US but in Europe and the rest of the world it’s more complicated than this.
Take Tony Blair for example he is a (Leftie as you describe) but he is no less ruthless than Bush.
At the meantime, enjoy this great Voodoo piece from Miles Davis.
Hi there LB!!! I am on the other hand writing from our summer house. The internet connection is thru a modem. It is extremely slow. Normally I take a break from the Internet while here. But now I had to log on and I couldn’t keep away from your site, wanted to see your updates! Miles Davis’s music is coming out from the computer now and at the same time I hear my jazz loving husband training on his trumpet in the attic! He has been part of a Big Band for many years. If if was up to him a Miles Davis poster would be on every wall in our home. Luckely I have a say too! :)
Got to Go, take care LadyBird!
Hi Nadia
Hehehe, you are also in vacation??, good for you,
:) take care
Happy BirthDay Iraq and Merry Christmas!!
al-Zarqawi ‘terminated’ along with seven aides Wednesday evening in a in a remote area 30 miles northeast of Baghdad, in the volatile province of Diyala, just east of the provincial capital of Baqouba, al-Maliki said.
Al-Qaida in Iraq’s al-Zarqawi ‘terminated’ along with seven aides Wednesday evening in a in a remote area 30 miles northeast of Baghdad, in the volatile province of Diyala, just east of the provincial capital of Baqouba, al-Maliki said.
Here’s an earlier report from October 2004
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/10-17a-04.asp
Zarqawi killed in Iraq
Balaji Reddy, Special Correspondent
October 16, 2004
Mike,
Here is a quote from your 2004 link:
As usual ayou don’t even read your own links.
Maybe we did get him this time — or at least we got his clone (matching fingerprints, picture, etc.).
This of course does not mean the violence inspired by this deceased sack of pus will end — but it is certainly a GOOD THING.
Piss be upon him and all of his followers.
Peace to Iraq.
Free beer and rejoicing to the joint team that took him down.
Prosperity and health to the folks who turned him in!
“I just wanted to add this before I leave
from reading the comments, I noticed many (mostly Americans) use the word (Left or Leftie), I know it’s a kind of virtual war between Left and Right in the US but in Europe and the rest of the world it’s more complicated than this.
Take Tony Blair for example he is a (Leftie as you describe) but he is no less ruthless than Bush.”
ok, this started off sounding both sane and interesting…it then went quickly downhill. first of all, it is patently ridiculous to refer to blair as “extreme”.
second we use terms like “left” and “leftie” because they are appropriate when referring to the self-hatred of people like KB, Nadia and Michael.
Here’s my interpretation of what LB was saying when she wrote this:
Yah, things are real complicated elsewhere in the world aren’t they… its the mindframe of
“We hate America, yet we wish we could all live there. We watch all the movies from there, and listen to the music produced there too. We eat McDonalds and go to Disney theme parks. But we hate the Americans! Why, because we’re jealous. And we expect them to help us whenever we have a problem with anything. We’ll love them then but with time we’ll turn around and spit in their faces because we expected them to be perfect and they weren’t. It was a conspiracy that they even came here to begin with. Down with the Americans– The Great Satan! We prefer being told what to do by our leaders. We are robotic sheep and we hate the Americans. Lets build a bomb and hijack a plane! Allah Akbar!”
It doesn’t seem so complicated to me. I have morals and an education and can see right through these people. They can kiss my ass for all I care.
Here’s a more “complicated” example of politics in the Middle East as brought forward by LB:
1) Sunni bombs Kurd
2) Kurd bombs Shiite
3) Shiite bombs Sunni
4) Kurd bombs Shiite
5) Shiite bombs Kurd
6) Sunni bombs Shiite
7) Kurd bombs Sunni
8) Shiite bombs Sunni (whoops already used that one. Oh well, I guess it happens more than once.)
They should design a pair of dice with the different sects on the faces to roll who kills who next. That way it wouldn’t be so complicated.
But Jeremy you missed the most important one.
Americans bomb everyone.
Right wing loonie writes
Actually he’s thought of more as a poodle who wags his tail on command. He’s to Bush what Mussolini was to Hitler.
They bomb everyone huh Michael? Including you too? There you go overstating things again. You probably wish we did bomb you so you’d go to martyr hell with the rest of the freaks. You’re just pissed off because your life sucks. You’re a jealous, brainwashed zealot.
Mussolini was to Hitler as what Michael is to Jon. They’re both hatemongers but Jon pissed off a lot more people on this blog than Michael. Step up Mikie, you need to take a hint from your Al Qaeda buddies and replace Jon like another radical muslim will replace Al Zarqawi. Ah… another day… another terrorist gets his ass blown in half by a 500 pound American bomb. i love it. Sorry we’re winning Mikey. I hope you don’t cry.
Jeremy writes “both hatemongers but Jon pissed off a lot more people on this blog than Michael.”
It’s not Jon or I that supports a president who is so far the biggest mass murderer in the 21st century.
“love it. Sorry we’re winning Mikey. I hope you don’t cry.”
Not quite Jeremy, you think you are winning. Just look at your trade figures issued yesterday which show another record deficit.
That’s how the NewWorldNazis will be defeated, by people all over the world boycotting Yanqui goods and dumping the rapidly devaluing US$.
I take a couple of days off from posting and a couple of sawed-off Nazi-wannabes run amuck on the site.
Michael, you shouldn’t waste your time in third-grade pissing matches with these losers. They just want to distract everyone from the real issue… George Bush’s responsibility for the illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation which has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. You should be hammering that point home in response to every right-wing comment. I’ve got a ton of stuff going on lately and I can’t be here all the time anymore to keep the conversation on point.
Jeremy — “Jon pissed off a lot more people on this blog”
Only a little Nazi wannabe would get snitty the way you do over someone speaking their mind. Both you and RWE are losers of the lowest order. You two come across as barely literate. Didn’t you say you were leaving and not coming back a month or so ago? Must not be a man of your word. The worst part about people like you is that you’re too chickenshit to speak your minds in public, so you troll the blogs. You’re a waste of bandwidth and LadyBird would be wise to delete your worthless drivel from the site.
Jon,
“Only a little Nazi wannabe would get snitty the way you do over someone speaking their mind.”
And just what are you doing by saying that? You’re not snitty? What a crock of shit, just like every other thing you key in with your worthless pipebomb building hands. You’re a hypocrite and a cave dweller just like the rest of the jihadists. The evidence you gather (which is BS) is slanted to the left from the very first glance. Too bad your pea-sized brain can’t be changed to see things the way they really are. By the way, asking Ladybird to remove my comments clearly shows your Communist totalitarian attitude of censorship and cowardice. You’re nothing but a traitor to the good of the world and for all I care you can rot in hell with the rest of your martyr-wannabe, bottom-feeding, sociopathic friends. By the way you’re never on point, you instead appear to be on the edge of mental collapse; perfectly evident by your delusionary attitude and evil, twisted thoughts. And I’d rather be a waste of bandwidth than a waste of oxygen like you mister junior Al Qaeda. You can kiss TRUE Americans asses like mine whenever you feel the temptation. Your motive for twisting facts is out of pure jealousy and anger-fueled stupidity. You believe every little conspiracy you hear because you’re a pissed off little sheep, just trying to find some way to try to pay the world back for all the “injustices” imposed on you. So that would make you selfish as well. You’re a typical liberal. You have to scream to get your voice across to others, I can sit back and let God do the work. I know the way that I feel is the right way, and thats what it comes down to, whats right and whats wrong. I’m always open-minded enough to accept arguments that contradict mine if they are indeed honest and factual. But your whole argument Jon, is fuckin sick, pathetic, and so far out in left field that Barry Bonds couldn’t reach it if he was swinging a cork-filled bat at a three hundred mph fastball. Either that or he’d swing and miss the ball (your argument) altogether. You’re nothing but a drain on the values of society. So pack up up your fake papers, ammonium nitrate, and blasting caps and hit the bricks in your Ryder van martyr boy.
Mikey–
Markets fluctuate. There are cycles. Go read your high school economics textbook and turn to page 1. Its there in boldface print.
Do you really think our market is going to collapse? I don’t think so… Americans are very productive because we have the freedom of mobility within our society. We are virtuous as well. Quit being so gosh-darn jealous.
By the way Michael, at least we’re brave enough to do something about terrorism. You’re such a coward and a follower that you’d join them like an idiot. Then you’d get to feel the wrath just like Al-Zarqawi did. Now go back to blowing up tunnels on your model train set so you can feel big
Jon–
A traitor like you couldn’t possibly be a man of his word. Unless it meant it would benefit you and only you. For example, blowing up innocent women and children because it would make you a martyr. Truly selfish in every sense of the word.
Jon–
A question regarding your article:
Do terrorists follow the rules of war?
Just answer the question and don’t beat around the bush.
I believe the rules have changed in this war and with just cause. I want my family to sleep safe tonight, plain and simple. The terrorists provoked us first, and by doing so they shaped their own destiny. You, Jon, can’t seem to draw the line between sympathy for the terrorists and justice for the Americans and the rest of the world affected my these jihadist monsters. I feel no sympathy for a terrorist, even if he’s stacked up naked in a pyramid with a dog in his mug. If he doesn’t like it, then he should think twice before plotting to kill innocent Americans. Quit feeling sorry for these people. They are the lowest of the low.
Now am I being literate enough for you, or are you just too angry and stupid to understand what I’m trying to say?
Jeremy — “And just what are you doing by saying that? You’re not snitty?”
I’m not bothered by your inane comments. I’m not being snitty. I’m making a scientific observation. You’re a poser fascist. You jump behind the Bush administration because you don’t grasp the situation.
What you don’t seem to understand is that Iraq does not exist under the aegis of the United States. The US has no authority in Iraq. Iraq was no threat to the United States, so by violently invading, the United States waged a “war of aggression”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression
If you would like to examine the legal code regarding such matters, here is an excellent article.
http://www.westpointgradsagainstthewar.org/laws_and_treatıes_violated_by_pr.htm
George Bush is not above the law. George Bush is a criminal and should be prosecuted as such.
Do you see the progression of steps that I’ve made in my argument? That is called the logical process. You should practice this sort of reasoning so that you can develop a cogent position on the topics you’re debating. As it stands, all you are doing is ranting about situations that you obviously don’t understand.
I can tell from your posts that you are scared, but that is no excuse for supporting criminal actions. This disregard of human suffering in order to provide yourself with a slightly greater false sense of security is evidence that you are completely lacking in honor. That is not very manly of you.
“with your worthless pipebomb building hands”
I have to warn you about something. You are obviously not legally sophisticated, so I’ll just write these comments off as a result of your ignorance about how to act in public. If you post comments suggesting that I took part in criminal activities when I did not, you are committing the crime of libel. Any time the word “traitor” comes out of your keyboard, you’ve falsely accused me of a crime and that’s illegal.
I know you think you are all invisible in your little bedroom down the hall from mom and dad, but, trust me, you’re not.
“The evidence you gather (which is BS) is slanted to the left from the very first glance.”
Most news, if not all, is editorialized to some extent. The evidence I present is in the form of articles or editorials. The news can be editorialized as long as opinion is not presented as fact. It’s legal. Fox News does this stuff constantly.
What I try to do is post libertarian leaning articles. You think I lean left only because your own opinions are so far to the extreme right. That means that anything which contradicts your opinion, you will see as coming from the left.
So, it’s not me who is a leftist. I am a libertarian. And you, being on the far right are known as a fascist. That’s the scientific definition for your political position, so don’t get aggrivated. I just insist on using the proper terminology.
“asking Ladybird to remove my comments clearly shows”
This blog isn’t a democracy. You are a blog troll. The proper treatment for blog trolls is to delete their presence so that the adults can get back on with the discussion. LadyBird is more than familiar with the concept of blog trolls are how to block their access, so I’m sure it’s a trivial thing to get rid of you.
“Communist totalitarian attitude of censorship and cowardice”
You wouldn’t know a communist of Marx kicked you in the ass. Being a libertarian, I am not in favor of government censorship. However, on this particular non-democratic, private site, LadyBird is monarch.
“You’re nothing but a traitor to the good of the world”
You have disregarded the well-being of all humanity to ensure your own standard of living. You back a president who orders the deaths of people he knows to be innocent. I don’t think you’re in a good position to claim an interest in goodness.
“for all I care you can rot in hell with the rest of your martyr-wannabe, bottom-feeding, sociopathic friends.”
Oh, no. Skinhead-in-training don’t like me. How will I ever go on.
“you instead appear to be on the edge of mental collapse; perfectly evident by your delusionary attitude and evil, twisted thoughts.”
Are you starting to fall for your own drivel? Are you beginning to think that mass murder of innocent people is good and holy? Did your mom raise you in the satanic church or something? I think your head is on backwards.
“I’d rather be a waste of bandwidth than a waste of oxygen like you mister junior Al Qaeda”
Nice comeback mister junior High School.
“You can kiss TRUE Americans asses like mine whenever you feel the temptation.”
It’s sad that you don’t realize that you’ve entirely ceased to be an American and are now just a Republican. You don’t give a rats ass about the future of this nation. All you care about is your own scrawny hide. You’re weak.
“Your motive for twisting facts is out of pure jealousy and anger-fueled stupidity.”
Jealousy? Of what? Living the redneck high-life like you? Wooo. You go, boy. I’ll stick to my own upper middle-class, suburban YANKEE lifestyle, thanks.
As far as anger-fueled stupidity goes, if you believe I’m wrong, present your case. You can’t because you don’t have one. You passionately believe through a sense of faith. Faith is defined as, “Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.” You are not basing your tirades on logic because your opinions are not founded in fact. Your whole belief system couldn’t be further from reality.
“You believe every little conspiracy you hear because you’re a pissed off little sheep”
I don’t believe every conspiracy theory. But I also don’t dismiss the possibility of conspiracies out of hand as you do. When you dismiss conspiracy theories without consideration, then you have intentionally made yourself naive. In other words, it is you who is the sheep.
Well, you took a swing, but you whiffed it. I know you were hoping that I was some kind of malcontent, but I’m not. I’m living exactly the life I want to live. The reason I’m opposing the war in Iraq is entirely due to the fact that it is a criminal action.
“So that would make you selfish as well.”
That was the lamest ad hominem attack I’ve ever seen.
“You’re a typical liberal.”
I hate to shatter your bubble, but being called a liberal doesn’t phase me. One reason is that I’d much rather be a liberal than a fasist. And the other reason is that because I know that you have no idea what the word “liberal” means as it occurs in the context of American politics.
“You have to scream to get your voice across to others, I can sit back and let God do the work.”
Now there’s an attitude that’ll make this alleged God of yours happy. You’re the lowest of the low. You call yourself a Christian and you support the exact opposite of what is considered to be Christian philosophy. The truth is that you are backing the alleged devil and you don’t even know it.
“I know the way that I feel is the right way”
I know you do. That’s because you have a “Type 1 personality”. Here is a brief desription of you…
That’s you in a nutshell.
“whats right and whats wrong”
Sadly, you’ve lost track of what is right and wrong. Not only is waging a war of aggression wrong, it’s illegal too.
“always open-minded enough to accept arguments that contradict mine if they are indeed honest and factual.”
That’s a bald-faced lie. You are indoctrinated. You don’t even consider any reasoning that is not issued to you from your protective authority (father) figures.
“But your whole argument Jon, is fuckin sick, pathetic”
Do you still believe that you’re sane? If you refer to the struggle for peace as sick and pathetic, you’ve got screws loose.
“You’re nothing but a drain on the values of society.”
Here’s an interesting little fact for you… did you know that both Hitler and GWB Jr ran on a “family values” platform? When you mention “the values of society”, are you referring only to the value of white families?
“For example, blowing up innocent women and children because it would make you a martyr.”
I defy you to produce one example of my support of terrorism. You’re a damn liar, nothing more.
“A question regarding your article: Do terrorists follow the rules of war?”
Do you think that our government is released from it’s obligation to act within the limits of the law simply because we decided to declare war on people who are not signatories of the Geneva conventions and UN Charter, etc?
The truth is that less than one percent of all those who have died as a result of the US’ illegal war of aggression on Iraq could be classified legally as terrorists. The rest are mostly civilians and some insurgents.
“I believe the rules have changed in this war and with just cause.”
Well, you’d be dead wrong, my friend. The rules are still in effect. Violators will be prosecuted.
“I want my family to sleep safe tonight, plain and simple.”
You don’t realize that the sad part is that you don’t give a rats ass about anyone elses family. You’d sacrifice innocent children to cover your own ass. You lack honor. You’re not a man.
“The terrorists provoked us first”
Your one of those extremely thick-skulled people who still haven’t caught on to the fact that Iraq had no involvement in 9/11. If you don’t believe me, read the 9/11 Commission report.
“can’t seem to draw the line between sympathy for the terrorists and justice for the Americans and the rest of the world affected my these jihadist monsters”
Is it possible that you’re a racist? Maybe you just don’t give a crap about people with brown skin or something. My sympathies lie with the hundreds of thousands of innocent people that George Bush and his followers have killed.
“I feel no sympathy for a terrorist”
I am betting that you can’t feel sympathy at all. You show all the signs of a sociopath.
“even if he’s stacked up naked in a pyramid with a dog in his mug.”
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.“
–Friedrich Nietzsche
Jeremy, you have become that which you sought to destroy. You’re a monster. I’m not saying that to be mean. You’ve ceased to regard humanity and you’ve lost your humanity in the process.
“If he doesn’t like it, then he should think twice before plotting to kill innocent Americans.”
You’ve been bamboozled. The people being abused in the Abu Ghraib scandled weren’t terrorists. They were innocent victims. They were violently and sexually abused and even raped. You are condoning criminal activity. That is a classic sociopathic logical process you have.
“Quit feeling sorry for these people. They are the lowest of the low.”
You’ve got to be one of the 10 most ignorant individuals I’ve ever run across. It’s sad really. You have no regard for anyone other than yourself, do you?
“Now am I being literate enough for you, or are you just too angry and stupid to understand what I’m trying to say?”
I understood your fascist ideology the first time you posted a comment. If you think you’re going to recruit me, you’ve miscalculated.
Jon–
Nice reply Sigmund Freud. You evidently believe you are actually smart, don’t you. I only care about myself? No, its just that you’re too big of a pussy to fight back against terror. When they come for you and your family, they won’t want to give you a hug. Your mind will change will real fast. These people are ruthless killers. You’re just a crybaby like the rest of the liberals. Your mindframe is always to “strategize, and think of some other type of a solution to the problem”. Meanwhile people are being killed by terrrorists, and their land is being invaded by illegal aliens and you just want to sit there and think about what we can do about it. How’s about making a real decision and sticking by it? Thats why Kerry lost the last election… because he couldn’t ever make up his mind, just like Hillary.
“its just that you’re too big of a pussy to fight back against terror…When they come for you and your family”
Buddy, you are the one who is displaying a distinct lack of courage here. You’re suggesting that the US bombing to death hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians is an appropriate response to a terror attack. You’re not a man. You’re a little chickenshit. Sitting scared in your little house terrified that the muslims are coming to get him. You need a reality check, my friend.
“Your mind will change will real fast.”
Even if muslims taking over the world was a possibility, which a sane individual would realize that it is not, my reaction to it wouldn’t be to kill people who had no involvement whatsoever.
“These people are ruthless killers.”
So, your idea of a good plan was what exactly? A shock and awe bombing campaign to kill thousands of innocent men, women and children? You think you can out-ruthless criminals like this? You’re nuttier than a fruitcake.
“You’re just a crybaby like the rest of the liberals.”
Right. You act like the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians is a small thing. You must certainly have some type of anti-social personality disorder.
Your mindframe is to react to every situation with force and violence. The reality of the situation is that you’re only making things worse.
“Meanwhile people are being killed by terrrorists”
And people are being killed on US bombing raids. What’s your point? Actual terrorists need to be dealt with like any other criminal. Your problem is that, in your mind, all Arabs are terrorists. You are a bigot. Your racism has manifested itself as “Islamophobia”.
“and their land is being invaded by illegal aliens”
Iraqis can take care of themselves. They don’t want your help. They don’t need your help. They want the US out of their affairs.
“you just want to sit there and think about what we can do about it”
I never said anything about just sitting around on our thumbs. There is plenty we can do to contain the threat of terrorism without even leaving US soil. The threat of terrorism is a law enforcement issue. It is best handled covertly with no mess and without the destruction of the lives of innocent people. You have gotten it into your mind that the war on Iraq was a response to 9/11 and you couldn’t be further from the truth. Iraq was not involved. You’re supporting the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. That kind of thing has to carry some bad karma with it.
“How’s about making a real decision and sticking by it?”
What you are referring to is called “being stubborn”. Being stubborn when you’re wrong is not a good quality. Someone should have taught that to you a couple of years ago when you were in kindergarten.
“Thats why Kerry lost the last election”
Kerry lost the last election because he was boring as hell and Americans want some entertainment for their tax dollars. Ideologically, Kerry and Bush are not far from each other. They are both right-wing conservatives, believe it or not, and scientifically classified as fascists.
“because he couldn’t ever make up his mind, just like Hillary”
Another fascist mistakenly referred to as a liberal. She wants to build the nanny state as much as you people want to build your Christian theocracy.
Jon–
You used the phrase “ad hominem” earlier, of which you are clearly the king.
You think I’m a racist because I support the war on terror, because the majority of it takes place in the Middle East. I haven’t seen any Al Qaeda training camps in the U.S. have you? We are taking care of the issue within our own borders, that’s why there have been no more attacks here since 9/11. Maybe we want the rest of the world to be safe too. Is that alright with you? We are creating a wedge between these jihadist retard martyr wannabe cells by being in their backyard. If we would have left Iraq Al-Zarqawi would have never been taken out. Who by the way did exist, and was responsible for the killing of many Americans and innocent Iraqis. Now if you’re trying to imply that you agree with what demons like Al Zarqawi do then you’ve lost the argument, plain and simple.
Pulling the race card on me when I associate with people of differing races and faiths on a daily basis makes your argument invalid. Sorry, you lose.
Jon–
Kerry a conservative? Thats absolutely ridiculous. Well unless you’re an anarchist.
“Kerry a conservative? Thats absolutely ridiculous.”
You only think that because you don’t know the difference between left and right.
“Well unless you’re an anarchist.”
Anarchism isn’t a political philosophy. It is the rejection of politics and government control altogether. Most people who say they are anarchists are just posers who think anarchy is radical.
I am a libertarian. Thomas Paine once said, “That government is best which governs least.” This statement represents the libertarian ideology perfectly. Anarchism is easily mistaken for libertarianism because anarchists believe the perfect government is no government.
Take a look at this chart.
http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/images/USelection2004.gif
You will notice that both Bush and Kerry are classified as “authoritarian right”. The scientific term for the authoritarian right is “fascist”. They pander to “the elite” which are today know as corporations. Fascism is most simply defined as the merging of corporate and government interests.