"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change" ~ Charles Darwin
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The whole day I was with TV crew covering the news of the death of Zarqawi, by asking people’s opinions.
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Best opinion I heard today was:
“The Americans announce the death of Zarqawi because they wanted to show support for Iraq’s new government, but Zarqawism is not dead they left the option open to use another name or names”.
major television news outlets, radical leftist webloggers wasted no time in blasting the whole thing as some sort of Bush-led conspiracy to boost the GOP’s chances in the November General Election. One blogger who claims to be an Iraqi claims boththat Zarqawi is not dead, and that he never existed to begin with. I am quite the consumer of conspiracy theories myself, folks, but that one is a bit far-fetched even for me.
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[…] Baghdad Dweller is with a TV crew on the streets of Beirut interviewing people for reactions to the killing of Zarqawi. But they were under the strict instructions only to gather pro-occupation opinions (go figure!). Of the 30 people they talked only 3 were ’suitable’. The rest were like this: “They are the Americans who create Zarqawi, and now they don’t need this myth anymore”. […]
This article was written June 8th, 2006, with the mathematical number of 36 contributions.
LB,
Haven’t you written several posts asserting a conspiracy theory that Zarqawi didn’t even exist?
That he was simply a myth made up by the US? All of his statements and videos a product of Hollywood/Military studios?
Does it follow then in your mind that his whole group is a creation of the US? Didn’t you assert that as well?
All of the beheadings, bombings, and murders were really just US plots?
Where exactly is your evidence that he ever existed Charlie?
Forget to write my own opinion
LB,
So Zarqawi never existed? Or he was actually a US special forces guy who used up his usefulness so we killed him?
Ladybird– Zarqawis gun probably locked up, he tripped on the untied laces of his New Balance shoes, and hit his head on a rock. He was an imbecile just like all the other jihadists, terrorists, and their supporters. So basically yah, he never existed because he was hiding in a cave like a coward for most of his life.
Michael you must be fukt in the head if you have never seen evidence of the existence of Al Zarqawi. He only made a home video ranting about BS from a cellar every week and sent it to Al Jazeera.
Why do some of you choose to fabricate conspiracies instead of focusing on reality? I guess reality is too complicated huh?
Michael you must be fukt in the head if you have never seen evidence of the existence of Al Zarqawi. He only made a home video ranting about BS from a cellar every week and sent it to Al Jazeera.
I didn’t say hadn’t, I just asked Charlie to provide some evidence. After all Charlie still denies that Bush lied. Now that can’t be any less riduculous as someone claiming Zarqawi never existed.
Mikey Al-So-sorry– Lying to save your own people and the world from evil terrorists sounds alright to me. Falsifying documents to hijack a plane doesn’t.
What’s that to do with Iraq?
Everything! For example — Al Zarqawi! He was an Al Qaeda member located in Iraq who was responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole and also for trying to create a civil war between sects in Iraq after the U.S. occupation. Any more brainbusters you wanna ask?
Everything! For example — Al Zarqawi! He was an Al Qaeda member located in Iraq.
But he wasn’t located in Iraq at all, he did stay in a Bahgdad hospital to get treatment for a couple of weeks but there’s no evidence he had any contact whatsoever with the Iraqi Government.
You see this is your problem, you rely on myths and fantasies and expect people to take you seriously.
Sure perroquet —
Anyone can just waltz across the border of Saddam’s Iraq with major trauma wounds, make it all the way to Baghdad, receive treatments for weeks in his hospitals, and then wander about the country…
Saddam’s security forces would be none the wiser.
People in the US have been doing the same thing for years to avoid the high cost of hospitals. Entire tour companies were set up to take US patients, escort them across the border, get them treated in Baghdad hospitals, and then slip them back across the border. All you had to do was pay airfare because everything else was free. Oh, except for the falafel on haifa street. Those you had to pay for.
Check out page 347 of ‘Doing Iraq on 1 dinar per day.’ They really have some great tips.
Michael Said:
“Where exactly is your evidence that he ever existed Charlie?”
LOL.
CuckooBird said:
because we all know that there is nothing “positive” about the death of a butcher. can you at least try to be consistent?
Charles said:
“LB,
“So Zarqawi never existed? Or he was actually a US special forces guy who used up his usefulness so we killed him?”
Uh no, Charles…He was actually a bloodthirsty Halliburton executive who is no longer useful to Cheney. cmon.… that lust for murdering children didnt seem familiar?
Nuf said RE.
Wink… Nod… Wink…
Now THAT’s how to score points. Big time. You are just soooo right on!
Wait till Cheney get’s around to dealing with Bush.
Saaaaweeeeeeeeet.
Bush is a fascist baby killer who is trying to conquer the world.
RE,
This is cute. Take a look and have a laugh.
Iowahawk Guest Commentary
by Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi
Former Senior VP, Al-Qaeda In Iraq
Link
Charles
“Dude, I can’t even fart anymore, I hoot. And I’m so bowlegged they call me Hopalong. But, hey, I’m thinking it was just part of the Paradise Club for Martyrs initiation, because we sometimes did the same thing with AQ recruits. Not gay or anything, just to make sure the new jihadis knew who the boss was.”
Great stuff lol. I’ve always wondered what the buggers did in those caves.….?
Michael– If we’re going to start creating conspiracy theories, how about the one in which YOU were involved with the terrorists on 9/11. I think we have plenty of circumstantial evidence to back that up. You’re a poor excuse for a human being since you favor the terrorists over the U.S. and what occurred that fateful day. I think you’ll have a fun time sleeping next to Bubba Moussaoui at the Colorado supermax prison. You’ll be his little martyr wife. You’re a disgrace. I’m sure any rational person can see that. You make arguments with no real evidence except from those who think the same way as you do. And they’re idiots just like you. Talk about the blind leading the blind.
Right wing loonie writes
But then again if you had the slightest bit of sense you would have realised it’s not a serious comment. It was made to highlight Charlie’s stonewall denial that Bush lied in regard to the reasons for the illegal invasion of Iraq, despite the fact that I’ve given him irrefutable evidence.
Seems to me if Charlie can ask for evidence to prove something that everyone knows is true anyway, there’s no reason I shouldn’t do the same.
I celebrate the victory of Iraq more than the defeat of Zarqawi.
Almaliki said he would get zarqawi … and he did.
Almaliki said he would form a cabinet … and he did.
Maliki does not seem to be a man of empty words.
I hope for a thousand more victories in the years ahead.
A point by point refutation is hardly ‘stonewalling.’
You were afraid to even read them. It would have taken you 5 minutes maximum.
I would venture that the person who reposts other people’s propaganda and is afraid to review evidence that proves his sources are wrong is the one who is ‘stonewalling.’
But that’s just me…
The U.S. forces in Iraq deserve credit for taking out a pyschopathic killer. And the Bush Admin deserves credit for increasing his stature with Jihadis by blaming all armed resistance in Iraq on AQ. Let’s give everyone their due.
Jarn,
It will be interesting to see if KB’s theory that the ‘insurgents’ are truly ‘freedom fighters’ and not just murderous thugs is borne out. If we continued attacks on civilians, then he is wrong.
While Zarqawi and his band were no doubt behind many of the brutal attacks on civilians, I think that KB’s noble ‘freedom fighters’ are not far behind.
I checked your article and besides the author spending a lot of sincere energy in trying to devalue this fellow’s demise, I don’t find it convincing.
One thing that he did get right, was something that people on this blog cannot grasp. The main flow of the insurgency is as follows:
1. Baath get overthrown;
2. Baath mobilize sunnis in the fight to regain power because they reject democracy;
3. They slaughter, disrupt, and destroy;
4. After more than 2 years, the shia at long last begin to retaliate.
The claims that Bush is behind sectarianism in Iraq is nonsense. The obvious truth is simply that the minority arab sunni’s did not appreciate losing power and they will do absolutely ANYTHING to destroy the political process, bring Iraq to its knees, and scoop up the remains and put it back in their pockets.
I think the author also downplays the significance of Zarqawi. While the US certainly did want to split the sunni insurgency from Zarqawi, and emphasized the fact that he was a foreigner killing Iraqis indiscriminantly, that in no way changes the fact that he WAS doing those things. He claimed responsibility for some of the most high profile attacks, and he is the one that drove the UN out.
Killing him is a good thing.
The argument that ‘just because he is dead there will be more people to take his place’ is absurd. The more ‘effective’ enemy operators you kill, the less ‘effective’ the enemy becomes.
charles,
Tomaitoe / tamahtoe
Of course they are freedom fighters. They are fighting for the freedom to appoint a leader from their own ranks. The are fighting for the freedom to kill anyone that disagrees.
I think Zarqawi is more important than anybody is letting on. He represented the ruthless bloodlust and terror that the sunni supremists thought they could ride back into power. His death represents the killing of a dream. The dream that the shia would not, could not, effectively fight back in the face of terror. The dream that the shia would not become like the kurd. The dream that Iraqis would succumb to a dictator if he could end the terror. The dream is dead.
Well, that didn’t take long…
KB, are you sure you don’t want to reconsider your ‘freedom fighter’ theory?
Zarkawi, that psyop, has been killed several times, whose to ssay he wont be resurrected again by the Pentagon:
From Kurt Nimmo:
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=401
Eg back in 2005:
’Wednesday, May 11, 2005
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Killed in Matador?
By James Joyner
AL-ZARQAWI SERIOUSLY INJURED, SAYS IRAQI OFFICIAL (AKI)
Operation Matador is centred around the town of Qaim, just a few kilometres from the Syrian border, and is aimed at destroying the strongholds of foreign fighters coming over the border into Iraq to join the insurgency. It’s the fourth day of violent fighting around the town, which has been surrounded by troops since Saturday night. Bombing is said to be heavy in Qaim, where there has been house
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/05/abu_musab_al-zarqawi_killed_in_matador/