Maliki’s ini­tia­tive for dia­logue and national rec­on­cil­i­a­tion included many pos­i­tive points such as the dis­arm­ing mili­tias, stop tor­ture and the release of detainees, but it is not expected to achieve any results in terms of halt­ing secu­rity dete­ri­o­ra­tion because the plan was born dead and 11 resis­tance armed groups already rejected it:

Maliki closed all the doors of rec­on­cil­i­a­tion by mak­ing a con­di­tional amnesty, Maliki don’t want to nego­ti­ate with:

Baathi mem­bers, Saddam’s sup­port­ers, peo­ple who killed Iraqis and later he added peo­ple who killed American-led forces.

In fact, the peo­ple Maliki wants to talk rec­on­cil­i­a­tion with, are already in the cur­rent polit­i­cal process, they par­tic­i­pated in the last elec­tion and even have a min­istry in the new gov­ern­ment [as par­ties; Sunni Islamic party or as indi­vid­u­als: Mut­lak].

Few remarks on Maliki’s initiative:

1– The ini­tia­tive acknowl­edge the fact that the cur­rent polit­i­cal process in Iraq is a fail­ure, has not achieved any suc­cess so far in terms of the rep­re­sen­ta­tion of all Iraqis, and the sta­bi­liza­tion of Iraq’s national identity.

2– For the first time the gov­ern­ment rec­og­nizes the Iraqi resistance.

3– Demon­strate the weak­ness of polit­i­cal insti­tu­tions, the issue is not a ques­tion of a minor­ity or a major­ity, when it comes to the legit­i­macy of gov­er­nance, but the issue of national standards.

4– Shows the weak­ness of the polit­i­cal and mil­i­tary insti­tu­tions estab­lished by the occu­pa­tion forces.

5– Rec­og­nize the grow­ing cor­rup­tion and vio­la­tions of human rights by the con­sti­tu­tion and gov­ern­men­tal institutions.

6– One of Maliki’s ini­tia­tive points is :

Amnesty for pris­on­ers and detainees who did not killed/raised their arms against Iraqis [or even US forces].

This alone is a con­dem­na­tion for Maliki and the Amer­i­can occu­pa­tion forces. If they did not armed-resist, and has not been impli­cated in ter­ror­ist acts, why they were arrested in thou­sands through­out this period?

The Iraqi resis­tance wants the US full with­drawal from all Iraqi ter­ri­tory [with guar­an­tees from the United Nations], and com­pen­sa­tion for all the war crimes com­mit­ted in Iraq, the inva­sion was not legit­i­mate, ille­gal and based on lies.

This ini­tia­tive is the first for­mal recog­ni­tion vic­tory of the Iraqi resis­tance, and the fail­ure of the occu­pa­tion forces asso­ci­ated in return.

US Ambas­sador Zal­may Khalil is doing his best to cover the US defeat embar­rass­ment and save what could be saved.

33 Comments

  1. Yet again LB makes clear her true ‘human­i­tar­ian’ inten­tions. For her, rec­on­cil­li­a­tion and peace would be a com­plete disaster.

    YOU ARE A SICK INDIVIDUAL LB.

    11 resis­tance armed groups

    Which one’s? What are their affiliations?

  2. Very good post, LB. Even the

  3. I try again with­out the link to the New York Times:

    He [Maliki] opted for a ver­sion that did not stake out any new ground, but sim­ply repack­aged pre­vi­ous pro­nounce­ments. The deci­sion appeared to have been influ­enced by reli­gious Shi­ites who form his base and by the Amer­i­can mil­i­tary command.

  4. So sorry

    I don’t know what is going wrong with links, I will try to solve it.

  5. 1– The ini­tia­tive acknowl­edge the fact that the cur­rent polit­i­cal process in Iraq is a failure,

    How is it a fail­ure that the elected gov­ern­ment is try­ing to use nego­ti­a­tion and rec­on­cil­i­a­tion as a means to reduce the vio­lence in Iraq and include all par­ties and groups in the polit­i­cal process? Would you pre­fer that the secu­rity forces engage in major mil­i­tary oper­a­tions and poten­tially hurt civilians?

    has not achieved any suc­cess so far in terms of the rep­re­sen­ta­tion of all Iraqis,

    The vast major­ity par­tic­i­pated in elec­tions and their rep­re­sen­ta­tives will be held account­able at the next elec­tion. An ever shrink­ing minor­ity prefers vio­lence over the polit­i­cal process (LB’s friends). There are some for­mer regime peo­ple and rad­i­cal ter­ror­ists who will NEVER engage in pol­i­tics because they don’t believe in democ­racy. But that is hardly a rea­son to reject democracy.

    and the sta­bi­liza­tion of Iraq’s national identity

    I’m not sure what this means exactly, but one thing is for sure — Iraq will never sta­bi­lize polit­i­cally, socially, or eco­nom­i­cally while vio­lent groups who reject the rule of law con­tin­ure to wreak havoc and mur­der peo­ple across the country.

    2– For the first time the gov­ern­ment rec­og­nizes the Iraqi resistance.

    Funny I’ve heard them men­tioned before.

    3– Demon­strate the weak­ness of polit­i­cal insti­tu­tions, the issue is not a ques­tion of a minor­ity or a major­ity, when it comes to the legit­i­macy of gov­er­nance, but the issue of national standards.

    Sums up LB’s apolo­getic defense of the devil quite succinctly.

    4– Shows the weak­ness of the polit­i­cal and mil­i­tary insti­tu­tions estab­lished by the occu­pa­tion forces.

    Except that her com­rades dis­guise them­selves as civil­ians and would never dare to stand their ground. Is that strength? All they can do is blow things up and kill peo­ple ran­domly. Is that strength? It has not stopped the for­ma­tion of a gov­ern­ment, elec­tions, etc. Is that strength? It has only suc­ceeded in mur­der­ing peo­ple and mak­ing the life of the aver­age Iraqi quite mis­er­able. Is that strength?

    5– Rec­og­nize the grow­ing cor­rup­tion and vio­la­tions of human rights by the con­sti­tu­tion and gov­ern­men­tal institutions.

    The con­sti­tu­tion and the insti­tu­tions are not cor­rupt, nor do they vio­late human rights. There may be indi­vid­u­als who do, but they can be held account­able under the rule of law. LB the pro­gres­sive lib­eral prefers total­i­tar­i­an­ism and extra­ju­di­cial mur­der as an ideal form of gov­ern­ment. She presents no alter­na­tive other than violence.

    This alone is a con­dem­na­tion for Maliki and the Amer­i­can occu­pa­tion forces. If they did not armed-resist, and has not been impli­cated in ter­ror­ist acts, why they were arrested in thou­sands through­out this period?

    Per­haps they were sus­pects impli­cated in insur­gent activ­i­ties but not caught in the act? LB yam­mers on yet pro­vides no alter­na­tive other than the truly guilty and inhu­man ter­ror­ists as her pre­ferred ‘new lead­ers’ of Iraq. Bot­tom line is they are 1000 times worse than the Iraqi government.

    The Iraqi resis­tance wants the US full with­drawal from all Iraqi ter­ri­tory [with guar­an­tees from the United Nations], and com­pen­sa­tion for all the war crimes com­mit­ted in Iraq, the inva­sion was not legit­i­mate, ille­gal and based on lies.

    As I asked you before, please pro­vide a list of these Iraqi insur­gent groups, their plat­forms, how they are related etc. Any­one with a gun who is will­ing to mur­der peo­ple is appar­ently an ‘insur­gent group’ in your eyes. If they are a legit­i­mate polit­i­cal group who aspires to lead­er­ship of Iraq, they need to clearly iden­tify them­selves, lead­er­ship, plat­forms, etc. With­out that they are just blab­ber­ing killers.

    This ini­tia­tive is the first for­mal recog­ni­tion vic­tory of the Iraqi resis­tance, and the fail­ure of the occu­pa­tion forces asso­ci­ated in return.

    We know this is your dream!

    US Ambas­sador Zal­may Khalil is doing his best to cover the US defeat embar­rass­ment and save what could be saved.

    We’ll see how things progress. The gov­ern­ment has made a good faith offer once again to include every­one in a fair demo­c­ra­tic process. Bar­bar­ians who refuse this con­cil­lia­tory ges­ture will have lost all pre­ten­sions to moral author­ity. What legit­i­mate group could pos­si­ble be against inclu­sion into a demo­c­ra­tic process?

  6. A senior Pen­ta­gon offi­cial says the amnesty offer has the tacit approval of the White House and may have been ini­ti­ated in Wash­ing­ton, not Bagh­dad. “Maliki doesn’t sneeze with­out our per­mis­sion,” says the official.

  7. Mujahideen Shura Coun­cil doesn’t exist, this is a US orga­ni­za­tion [CIA]

  8. This from LB:

    but it is not expected to achieve any results in terms of halt­ing secu­rity dete­ri­o­ra­tion because the plan was born dead and 11 resis­tance armed groups already rejected it:

    This from Guardian:

    The Muja­hedin Shura Coun­cil (MSC), an umbrella body of 11 Sunni insur­gent fac­tions, rejected his plan out­right, denounc­ing the Maliki gov­ern­ment as “ille­git­i­mate”. “As long as there is occu­pa­tion and an ille­git­i­mate gov­ern­ment, the resis­tance and insur­gency will con­tinue,” it declared.

    This from LB:

    Mujahideen Shura Coun­cil doesn’t exist, this is a US orga­ni­za­tion [CIA]

    This from Charles:

    Ouch! Now that’s gotta hurt!

  9. Here where I get my informations

    there is no link between The Muja­hedin Shura Coun­cil and 11 Sunni insur­gent fac­tions on the Sun­day Times

  10. By The Asso­ci­ated Press

    Some reac­tion from peo­ple in Bagh­dad to government’s rec­on­cil­i­a­tion initiative:

    We thank the prime min­is­ter for this healthy ini­tia­tive. Armed groups will put down their weapons and serve their coun­try if they sense this kind of seri­ous­ness from the prime min­is­ter, the par­lia­ment and lead­ers of polit­i­cal blocs.” — Amar Mohammed, 35, Sunni Arab worker.

    This pro­gram of rec­on­cil­i­a­tion should have been in place three years ago. … This ini­tia­tive is a good one if applied prop­erly. The resis­tance to the occu­pa­tion should be given a role in the rec­on­cil­i­a­tion pro­gram.” — Osama Ahmed, 50, Sunni who works at Min­istry of Higher Edu­ca­tion and Sci­en­tific Research.

    All par­ties and blocs should have an active role in the rec­on­cil­i­a­tion process. All mili­tias should be dis­banded because they are polit­i­cal obsta­cle in the process of the rec­on­cil­i­a­tion.” — Amir Mohammed Ali, 45, Shi­ite who owns cur­rency exchange shop.

    We have been wait­ing for this for a long time. It came late, but in spite of that we hope that offi­cials have the best inter­ests of the Iraqi peo­ple at heart and not polit­i­cal or sec­tar­ian motives. We hope it will hap­pen and not just be words on paper.” — Sabah Nour, 35, Shi­ite worker.

    I am pes­simistic about the plan but hope I’m wrong because I wish all the best for Iraqi peo­ple.” — Kamil Abdul-Muniem, 65, retired Sunni high school teacher.

    This is a huge step and every­body should sup­port it so that secu­rity and sta­bil­ity can be restored in Iraq.” — Nouri Abdul-Hussein, 48, Shi­ite employee at Trade Min­istry.

    I hope that every­one sup­ports this plan. The mili­tias should be dis­banded because their pres­ence will hin­der the process of the rec­on­cil­i­a­tion.” — Assad Imad, 46, Sunni street ven­dor.

    the plan was born dead…Maliki closed all the doors of reconciliation…the cur­rent polit­i­cal process in Iraq is a failure…not achieved any success…Demonstrate the weak­ness of polit­i­cal institutions…Shows the weak­ness of the polit­i­cal and mil­i­tary institutions…Recognize the grow­ing cor­rup­tion and vio­la­tions of human rights…This alone is a con­dem­na­tion for Maliki and the Amer­i­can occu­pa­tion forces…the inva­sion was not legit­i­mate, ille­gal and based on lies…This ini­tia­tive is the first for­mal recog­ni­tion vic­tory of the Iraqi resistance…cover the US defeat embar­rass­ment.” — LB, Iraqi expat in Holland

  11. there is no link between The Muja­hedin Shura Coun­cil and 11 Sunni insur­gent factions

    That’s almost funny LB. They are the same ‘group.’ Both arti­cles attribute the same ver­ba­tum quotes to them. The only dif­fer­ence is that your arti­cle does not specif­i­cally men­tion the MSR, whereas the Guardian refers to them directly. It is crys­tal clear LB. The Times arti­cle does refer to groups that are part of the MSR umbrella.

    You con­sider the AQ ‘insur­gent’ groups to be the legit­i­mate heirs to power in Iraq, rather than the elected government.

    You have been exposed.

  12. Iraqis reac­tion on BBC Ara­bic

    If rec­on­cil­i­a­tion plan suc­ceed the US plan of the dis­trac­tion of Iraq will fail

    My Advice to Maliki; repair your gov­ern­ment first.

    What is hap­pen­ing in Iraq is made by

    1– Ira­ni­ans
    2– Israelis
    3– Amer­i­can forces

    I don’t have the time to trans­late more

  13. LB,

    We all know there are lots of peo­ple out there like you. But doesn’t it sur­prise you that there are Iraqis who actu­ally live in Iraq who actu­ally have hope for Iraq like I do?

    Also, I totally busted you on the 11 resis­tance groups = MSR.

    Another one of your fool­ish con­spir­a­cies bites the dust. I know you have plenty more where that came from, but this just shows how insin­cere you are.

  14. Rus­sia con­firms death of hostages in Iraq

    The coali­tion forces espe­cially carry the respon­si­bil­ity of ensur­ing secu­rity in Iraq, includ­ing the defense of for­eign diplo­matic mis­sions and their per­son­nel. We have more than once insisted to the com­mand of the for­eign mil­i­tary con­tin­gent that it take appro­pri­ate measures,

    Rus­sia con­firms death of hostages in Iraq

  15. At one moment LB praises the Free­dom fight­ers led by the mighty ter­ror­ist umbrella group MSR, at the next moment she blames the US for their atrocities.

    Has any­one noticed this inter­est­ing habit?

  16. Thanks RWE.

    Jeeze. It seems like no one is watching.

    Throw me a frig­gin bone once in a while KB

    Any­who, she really nailed her­self to the wall with the ’11 insur­gents’ thing. All I did was point it out.

  17. Why do RWE’s posts keep disappearing?

    I think there is a con­spir­acy afoot!

  18. Because he’s a right wing extrem­ist, hope­fully you will be next.

  19. He is racist, extrem­ist, and vul­gar.
    Adding:

    He is Fat, drinks Coca Cola and eats junk fast-food.

    Amer­i­can stereo­type, just like in movies and comic-books [Homer Simpson].

  20. He is Fat, drinks Coca Cola and eats junk fast-food.

    Amer­i­can stereo­type, just like in movies and comic-books [Homer Simpson].”

    That descrip­tion itself is big­oted and reveals your own shal­low prejudice.

    Per­ro­quet,

    I’m quite far from being an extrem­ist. You, some­one whose hyper­bolic fan­tasies form the basis of their world view and whose mind regurgutates con­spir­acy the­o­ries is far more extrem­ist. Per­haps extrem­ist isn’t the right word. You rep­re­sent the nut­ball fringe.

  21. we are often shocked to dis­cover that many peo­ple in other coun­tries are put off by how we come across and may actu­ally dis­like us.

    Avoid­ing the “Ugly Amer­i­can” Stereotype

  22. and your point?

  23. Of course you are an extrem­ist Char lie, one of the very few peo­ple in the world still fail­ing to admit that Bush lied about Iraq despite the over­whelm­ing evi­dence to the contrary.

  24. From your link Lady­bird.. I added the last one out of respect for Char lie.

    Act­ing supe­rior; know­ing the answers to every­thing
    Not want­ing to share credit for accom­plish­ments of joint efforts
    Being unable or unwill­ing to respect and adjust to local cus­toms and cul­ture
    Pre­fer­ring solu­tions based on their home cul­tures rather than meet­ing local needs
    Resist­ing work­ing through local admin­is­tra­tive, legal, chan­nels, and pro­ce­dures
    Man­ag­ing in an auto­cratic and intim­i­dat­ing way
    Being too impos­ing and pushy
    Being in denial, prefer­ing to appear a fool rather than admit the truth.

  25. LB it offends me to no end that you Y’urp-peons keep diss­ing Fast Food and Coca Cola! [stereo­typ­i­cally anti-American]

    Espe­cially since I know for FACT you had #3 meal with a Super-Sized Coke just the other day! OY VEY!

    btw.. Nice Fisk­ing Charles!!

    Prize: You git lunch for two at any Golden Arches! [per­haps LB is free?]
    :)

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  1. com­ment­ing on lat­est devel­op­ments in Iraq said: Maliki’s ini­tia­tive for dia­logue and national rec­on­cil­i­a­tion included many pos­i­tive points such as the dis­arm­ing mili­tias, stop tor­ture and the release of detainees,but it is not expected to achieve any results in terms of halt­ing secu­rity dete­ri­o­ra­tion because the plan was born dead and 11 resis­tance armed groups already rejected it.

  2. him­self, posts his trans­la­tion of the pow­er­ful post from an Ara­bic lan­guage blog­ger liv­ing in the “Sadr City” neigh­bor­hood of Bagh­dad. This is a must read! Bagh­dad Con­nect com­ments on the mur­der of one of Saddam’s defense lawyers. Lady­bird ofRoads to Iraq pro­nounces Maliki’s rec­on­cil­i­a­tion plan DOA. Mohammed of Iraq the Model is not enthu­si­as­tic about the plan. He gives us an update on the progress the plan is mak­ing here. Trea­sure of Bagh­dad has a long, thought­ful post on the plan in Iraq and is more

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    There was also some dis­agree­ment on who should be included in the amnesty. Mohammed believes an amnesty for those who have killed multi­na­tional forces would be a seri­ous con­tra­dic­tion while Lady­bird comes with theop­po­site opin­ion that “Maliki closed all the doors of rec­on­cil­i­a­tion by mak­ing a con­di­tional amnesty”. Mean­while work­ers rights are dis­ap­pear­ing. Bagh­dad Con­nect writes that “The Iraqi gov­ern­ment froze all bank accounts belong­ing to the Fed­er­a­tion of Oil Iraqi

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Maliki’s Reconciliation initiative, born dead

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