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US Vice Pres­i­dent Dick Cheney said in May that Rus­sia was using oil and gas riches as “tools of manip­u­la­tion and blackmail.”

Yahoo

The coali­tion forces espe­cially carry the respon­si­bil­ity of ensur­ing secu­rity in Iraq, includ­ing the defense of for­eign diplo­matic mis­sions and their per­son­nel. We have more than once insisted to the com­mand of the for­eign mil­i­tary con­tin­gent that it take appro­pri­ate measures,

Itar-Tass

Rus­sia will insist on con­ven­ing an emer­gency meet­ing of the UN Secu­rity Coun­cil in the wake of a mur­der of four Russ­ian diplo­mats by rad­i­cal Islamic abduc­tors in Iraq.

It will also insist that the UN Secu­rity Coun­cil issue an appro­pri­ate state­ment in con­nec­tion with that heinous crime

Inter­fax

Pres­i­dent Vladimir Putin said at a meet­ing with Russ­ian ambas­sadors on Tuesday.

Russia’s “close and con­struc­tive dia­logue with Israel”

67 Comments

  1. The answer is sim­ple “Vet”, with­out the ille­gal inva­sion none of the deaths in Iraq would be hap­pen­ing right now.
    “If we lose this war, oil will be $100 a bar­rel, and if we win, it will be, like, $25 a bar­rel.” — Don­ald Rums­feld, Amer­i­can Defense Secretary

  2. No prob­lem Mark.

  3. Any chance some­one could pro­vide a direct link on that quote?

    Rummy may be evil and sin­is­ter and mean and make milk­shakes out of babies, but he is far from stu­pid. That is just stupid.

    Iraq makes up about 2% of world pro­duc­tion. Even if we stole ALL of Iraq’s oil, thereby decreas­ing world mar­ket demand by about 2%, it would not impact mar­ket prices in the least. Well, maybe a tii­i­i­i­iny bit. But prob­a­bly not since world con­sump­tion is increas­ing at a sim­i­lar rate.

    Its very odd that he would say that.

    Per­ro­quet — what is the orig­i­nal source for this? I tried googling but it all seems to lead back to an op-ed from Mohamed Elmasry. He does not ref­er­ence the quote.

    If its true, I’m glad Runny is respon­si­ble for mil­i­tary issues and not the economy…

  4. Rumsfeld’s words were widely reported, here’s just one link.
    http://www.militaryproject.org/PDF/vol3/GI%20Special%203C80%20War%20Support%20At%20Record%20Low.pdf

    Char lie writes “Iraq makes up about 2% of world pro­duc­tion. Even if we stole ALL of Iraq’s oil, thereby decreas­ing world mar­ket demand by about 2%, it would not impact mar­ket prices in the least.”

    The depths of your stu­pidly and your abil­ity to lie seems to grow with each day. If it wasn’t for the Iraqi resis­tance sab­o­tag­ing Iraqi oil, Iraq would be capa­ble of pro­vid­ing a half of the USA’s daily usage and what’s more at a price that the USA chooses. Any­one who doubts that it would not have a sig­nif­i­cant affect on world prices has to be a liar or a loony, or in your case both.

  5. Per­ro­quet,

    Why are your posts always filled with such hate and fan­tas­tic hyper­bole? You seem a bit unhinged.

    Now if we actu­ally con­sider the facts — and not your hyper­bolized fan­tasies, we would see that Iraq pro­duces roughly 2% of the worlds oil. If ALL of that were stolen (there is no his­tor­i­cal prece­dent for this type of action, nor is there any evi­dence to sug­gest this), then it would NOT sig­nif­i­cantly impact world mar­ket prices. This is because ris­ing world demand would com­pen­sate for the decrease in US demand from world markets.

    Now if the US were some­how able to instantly increase pro­duc­tion in the sorely run down infra­struc­ture by 5x-10x, then it would impact prices. But if the increases in pro­duc­tion were spread out over the next 5–10 years, it would be absorbed by increased US and world demand. Keep in mind, as prices dropped, there would be an increase in demand as peo­ple con­sumed more, so things would actu­ally bal­ance out.

    All of your extrem­ist con­clu­sions are based on fan­tasies you invent perroquet.

  6. Rumsfeld’s words were widely reported, here’s just one link.

    Sorry per­ro­quet,

    It is the same ref­er­ence to Elmasry.

  7. You really do have a knack of com­ing out with crap. Must of Iraq’s cur­rent oil pro­duc­tion, lim­ited though it is, is being unmetered. In other words no one actu­ally knows for sure how much is being pro­duced and there­fore it’s impos­si­ble to know what price the USA is pay­ing for it, if any­thing at all. Clearly this has an effect on whether OPEC can sell their oil at the desired price, at least it would if the US could improve pro­duc­tion, there­fore it would under those cir­cum­stances affect all oil prices.
    http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/45456.pdf

    Iraq Oil Reserves and Pro­duc­tion His­tory. With 115 bil­lion bar­rels of proven­crude oil reserves, Iraq has the world’s second-largest endow­ment of oil, amount­ing to 11% of the global total. Only 17 of 80 oil fields have been devel­oped; the most­sig­nif­i­cant are Kirkuk in the north and Rumaila in the south. There has been vir­tu­al­ly­no­ex­plo­ration for many years, sug­gest­ing that Iraq may have much more oil than cur­rent­lyes­ti­mated. Iraq also has sig­nif­i­cant proven nat­ural gas reserves; vir­tu­ally all are­un­de­vel­oped. As a point of ref­er­ence, Saudi Ara­bia, at 260 bil­lion bar­rels of proven oil­re­serves, has the largest reserve base and can pro­duce as much as 10.5 mil­lion bar­rels per­day (mbd).

    Iraqi Oil Pro­duc­tion Poten­tial. With 112 bil­lion bar­rels of proven oil reserves,Iraq could poten­tially pro­duce far more oil than has been real­ized in its his­tory. Given astable secu­rity sit­u­a­tion, very large amounts of cap­i­tal invest­ment, and the involve­mentof one or more large oil com­pa­nies, it would be real­is­tic to sug­gest poten­tial out­pu­tramp­ing up to 5 or 6 mil­lion bar­rels per day over a period of sev­eral years. But, given­cur­rent dif­fi­cul­ties, it would seem that this sort of even­tu­al­ity is far off.

  8. it would be real­is­tic to sug­gest poten­tial out­pu­tramp­ing up to 5 or 6 mil­lion bar­rels per day over a period of sev­eral years.

    Again, tripling oil pro­duc­tion over sev­eral years, if it were in fact all stolen, would not cause a col­lapse in oil prices. World demand is increas­ing as fast or faster than pro­duc­tion increases. Also, if prices were to drop, that demand would sim­ply increase faster.

    But there is still noth­ing to sug­gest that the US would be capa­ble or even strate­gi­cally inter­ested in steal­ing the oil pro­duc­tion. That would be hard not to notice. Even in our most grue­some impe­ri­al­is­tic moods, we are still happy to pay a fair price.

    Appar­ently the ‘unmetered’ oil pro­duc­tion is around 2–2.5 mbpd.

    The prob­lem with your con­spir­a­cies is that it only takes one tiny link in the chain to unravel every­thing. It would be absolutely impos­si­ble to cover up some­thing so massive.

  9. Again, tripling oil pro­duc­tion over sev­eral years, if it were in fact all stolen, would not cause a col­lapse in oil prices. World demand is increas­ing as fast or faster than pro­duc­tion increases. Also, if prices were to drop, that demand would sim­ply increase faster.

    I think the sim­ple fact that you are over­look­ing, or more likely not pre­pared to admit, is that the cur­rent reduced oil pro­duc­tion is not a part of the plan. You can tell from Rumsfeld’s quote that the expec­ta­tion was that the oil would actu­ally pay for the inva­sion. Thanks to the resis­tance that ambi­tion has not been realised.

    But there is still noth­ing to sug­gest that the US would be capa­ble or even strate­gi­cally inter­ested in steal­ing the oil pro­duc­tion. That would be hard not to notice. Even in our most grue­some impe­ri­al­is­tic moods, we are still happy to pay a fair price.

    Really? you do come out with some crap.

    In the past, depen­dence on oil has cost our econ­omy dearly. Oil price shocks and price manip­u­la­tion by the OPEC car­tel from 1979 to 1991 cost the U.S. econ­omy about $4 tril­lion, almost as much as we spent on national defense over the same time period and more than the inter­est pay­ments on the national debt. Each major price shock of the past three decades was fol­lowed by an eco­nomic reces­sion in the United States. With grow­ing U.S. imports and increas­ing world depen­dence on OPEC oil, future price shocks are pos­si­ble and would be costly to the U.S. econ­omy.“
    (Source: U.S. Depart­ment of Energy, Spring 2002.)

  10. Although world petro­leum con­sump­tion growth has slowed because of higher prices, pro­jected con­sump­tion growth nev­er­the­less remains strong at 1.7 mil­lion bar­rels per day (bbl/d) in 2006 and 1.9 mil­lion bbl/d in 2007

    So much for the angy par­rots fantasies…

  11. http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/iraqquotes_web.htm

    Defense Sec­re­tary Don­ald Rums­feld: “I don’t believe that the United States has the respon­si­bil­ity for recon­struc­tion, in a sense…[Reconstruction] funds can come from those var­i­ous sources I men­tioned: frozen assets, oil rev­enues and a vari­ety of other things, includ­ing the Oil for Food, which has a very sub­stan­tial num­ber of bil­lions of dol­lars in it. [Source: Sen­ate Appro­pri­a­tions Hear­ing, 3/27/03]


  12. Duh?

    But how does that sup­port your fan­tasy that the US will steal oil?

    We cer­tainly don’t like major shocks to world oil prices. No one does. But jump­ing from the acknowl­edge­ment that oil sup­ply plays a major role in the devel­oped worlds’ economies, and a sin­is­ter plan to steal oil, it a bit of a stretch (to put it mildly).

  13. Although world petro­leum con­sump­tion growth has slowed because of higher prices, pro­jected con­sump­tion growth nev­er­the­less remains strong at 1.7 mil­lion bar­rels per day (bbl/d) in 2006 and 1.9 mil­lion bbl/d in 2007.

    What has this to do with the US call­ing it’s own price on Iraqi oil?

    check this out liar, it’s about unmetered oil

  14. But how does that sup­port your fan­tasy that the US will steal oil?

    You can’t really be this dumb? If the inva­sion had gone to plan Iraq would be pro­duc­ing 3 times more oil than it does now and at a price the USA calls, is this not steal­ing the nat­ural resources of Iraq which belong to Iraqis and not Amer­i­can oil companies?

  15. 4/3/2006
    http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1255
    Iraqi oil exports dive; there’s no telling where the money went
    Filed under: Gen­eral Com­men­tary Weldon’s Page Eat the Press— Wel­don Berger @ 3:57 pm
    Per­ma­nent Link
    Iraq’s oil exports hit another post-invasion low in Decem­ber and Jan­u­ary, accord­ing to the Oil & Gas Jour­nal. How do they know? Good ques­tion: accord­ing to Reuters, pro­duc­tion and exports have gone unmetered since the Coali­tion Pro­vi­sional Author­ity took over the coun­try fol­low­ing the 2003 inva­sion; until new meters are installed, everybody’s just guessing.

    Among the best chron­i­cles of the hazi­ness sur­round­ing Iraq’s oil pro­duc­tion and exports — and the gen­eral pall of cor­rup­tion that hangs over the coun­try — comes from jour­nal­ist Ed Har­ri­man, writ­ing in the July, 2005 issue of the Lon­don Review of Books.

  16. Iraq would be pro­duc­ing 3 times more oil than it does now

    Cer­tainly not a bad thing for Iraq.

    and at a price the USA calls

    Where does this come from?

    is this not steal­ing the nat­ural resources of Iraq

    But you have already drawn a con­clu­sion before such a thing has occurred. Your claims lack log­i­cal validity.

  17. Iraq would be pro­duc­ing 3 times more oil than it does now

    Cer­tainly not a bad thing for Iraq.

    It could be of course, if Iraq wasn’t occu­pied and that the prof­its are being creamed off by Amer­i­can com­pa­nies and in some cases sim­ply embezzled.

    and at a price the USA calls

    Where does this come from?

    Are you doubt­ing it? Did you not read the link con­cern­ing the miss­ing $9 bil­lion in oil rev­enues dur­ing the time that Brem­ner was in charge? Now of course it’s being un metered. Why exactly, are meters hard to come by?

    But you have already drawn a con­clu­sion before such a thing has occurred. Your claims lack log­i­cal validity.

    And your denials lack all cred­i­bil­ity, even for a pro­fes­sional liar.

A brief story of the four killed Russian diplomats

This article was written June 27th, 2006, with the mathematical number of 67 contributions.