For the first time an Iraqi official accuses the US and Israel, on creating the chaos in Iraq
Al-Mshahadani, head of the Iraqi parliament [Link in Arabic] said:
He pointed out that the first of these groups are the same group who wants to topple the state after the toppling of former regime and wanted Iraq to enter into darkness, creating a safe passage for the Israelis. [He means the US].
Al-Mshahadani also revealed the following:
The existence of a hidden Israeli cell in Iraq, trying to infiltrate Iraqi political arena
Second good news is not only for Iraq but for the whole world:
Iraq says to ask U.N. to end US immunity
Iraq will ask the United Nations to end immunity from local law for U.S. troops.…We’re very serious about this
terrorists don’t have immunity even if they are wearing uniforms.
LadyBird,
re: The Great Satans
In the Mix and According the Arab/Islamic Ummah
which is it?
Is Israel a proxy apparat for United States?
or
Is the United States a proxy apparat for Israel?
>:
I have a question:
Can you split the head of the snake from it’s tail, and keep the snake alive???
Don’t you mean skink? Yes, a skink can be separated from it’s tail and survive.
FACTBOX-Developments in Iraq on July 11
The following are security developments in Iraq on Tuesday as of 1430 GMT.
Asterisk denotes a new or updated item.
*BAGHDAD — Two suicide bombers and a roadside bomb killed 15 people outside Baghdad’s fortified Green Zone government compound on Tuesday, the U.S. military said. Iraqi police said earlier one suicide bomber had killed five and wounded 10.
BAGHDAD — Gunmen killed eight employees of an Iraqi contracting company and wounded three after bursting into their offices in Baghdad’s western Mansur district.
BAQUBA — Gunmen killed 19 people in different incidents in the religiously mixed city of Baquba, 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.
BAGHDAD — Gunmen opened fire at a minibus, killing 10 people and wounding one in the southern Sunni district of Baghdad, an Interior Ministry source said.
BAGHDAD — Gunmen kidnapped Wissam Abdulla al-Awadi, an Iraqi consul in Iran, from his house in Baghdad’s southwestern Ammil district, police and Interior Ministry sources said.
AL-SHIRQAT — Nine Iraqi soldiers were killed and four wounded on Monday when gunmen attacked them in al-Shirqat, 300 km (180 miles) north of Baghdad, police said. A civilian was wounded in the attack.
KIRKUK — Gunmen killed an engineer working for the North Oil Company, along with his driver, while he was heading to work in the northern oil city of Kirkuk, police said.
I’m surprised it took so long for someone to take the usual arab stance that everything is Israel’s fault.
As in most things ‘middle east’, it is both laughable and tragic at the same time.
Islamic and baathist terror groups are slaughtering Iraqis by the tens of thousands — and LB concurs that it just must be the fault of the joooooos.
Arabs have this unfortunate habit of blaming all of their problems on someone else. Anyone will tell you that the only way to solve a problem is to understand its components and take responsibility. Anything that deviates from this strategy places the solution yet even further from reach.
Israel no doubt has a stake in having Iraq develop into a modern democratic pluralistic society (as does the rest of the ME and world), but their influence on what is happening is probably not perceptable relative to all of the other players.
re: of sneaks, skinks and splitting Islamic moonbeams.
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Dennis Miller
Arab “Palestinians” want their own country.
There’s just one thing about that:
There are no “Palestinians”. It’s a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like “Wiccan,” “Palestinian” sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no “Palestinians.”
As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the “Palestinians”, weeping for their deep bond with their lost “land” and “nation.”
So for the sake of honesty, let’s not use the word “Palestinian” any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they’re being taped. Instead, let’s call them what they are:
“Other Arabs Who Can’t Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death.”
I know that’s a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: “Adjacent Jew-Haters.” Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing: No, they don’t. They could’ve had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living.
That’s no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course –that’s where the real fun is — but mostly they want Israel.
Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel — or “The Zionist Entity” as their textbooks call it — for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they’re the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God’s Earth, and if you’ve ever been around God’s Earth, you know that’s really saying something.
It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mid east. Unless I’m missing something, the Arabs haven’t given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.
Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five Million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals..
Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.
My friend, Kevin Rooney, made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshaling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab State into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children?
Disgusting.
No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.
Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations in Iraq and others, it’s in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can’t be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of super models who’ve just had their drugs taken away.
However, in any big-picture strategy, there’s always a danger of losing moral weight. We’ve already lost some. After September 11th our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint.
If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything
south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan.
Please feel free to pass this along to your friends. Walk in peace! Be Happy! Have a wonderful life!
Dennis Miller
That does add a bit of perspective.
Sorry typo mistake [one other reason to not use microsoft “word”]
Corrected
Rasputin you have a Jewish way of trying to re-write history. Palestine has existed for over 2000 years, sometimes occupied it’s true. The only claim the Jews have to Palestine is that there were a few wandering Jews in the area 2,400 years ago.
That’s only because they stole the water resources, I would like to see them try the same in Death Valley and for them all to move to the USA where they will be appreciated more. The State of Palestine has existed in its present form since 1988 and is recognised by over two thirds of UN members, you have to remember of course not everyone recognises Israel.
Israel is a state born out of terrorism and has attacked their neighbours in 1948, 1956,1967, 1973 and 1982, on each occasion to grab more land.
Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.
Perhaps you would do better to review various comments by Jews regarding driving the Arabs into the sea, it’s exactly what they are doing right now. Jews consider themselves the chosen ones, in actuality another “master race”,just review some of the passages from the Talmud and then you just might understand a little better. Israel is a racist society far worse in fact than apartheid S. Africa. Israel’s existence is temporary.
A typing mistake is the fault of the word processor?
Another example of blaming your shoes for the faults of your feet…
Perroquest,
Please enlighten us as to when the last time ‘Palestine’ was an independent state?
This ancient country you speak of not only lacks its own culture and language, but it doesn’t even have a name for itself. The name ‘barbarian lands’ was given to it by the ancient greeks.
It was just a term used to describe a vast swath of desparately poor geographic territory. Various powers then coopted the name throughout history as they took control of the region. Sometimes it was not Palestine, but rather — ‘lower syria.’ At other times it has gone by completely different names.
Now if you want a real cause of a downtrodden ethnicity that doesn’t have tis own country, try the kurds. They are far and away the largest contiguous ethnic group with their own language and culture who do not have a homeland.
That’s funny.
A hundred odd years ago the majority of the population of ‘Palestine’ were literally wandering herders. The vast majority of both the Israeli and Arab populations are immigrants within the last 100+ years.
The Palestine Mandate was already split giving the arabs 75% of the territory (Jordan).
The Palestine Mandate was already split giving the arabs 75% of the territory (Jordan).
That’s beacuse at that time Plarestine was a part of Jordan. But palestine has been recognsed as a State since 1988. The fact that Israel fails to recognise that fact is besides the point, not everyone recognises Israel.
Palestine has existed for milieniums, for example if you look on http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/MAPS/first_zionist_colony.htm you will see mentioned the first Zionist colony in Palestine in 1878.
On http://www.bible-history.com/geography/maps/map_palestine_territory.html there is a “Map of the Territory of Ancient Palestine”
Palestine was part of Jordan???
Jordan was renamed from Trans-Jordan, which was the area designated as the arab palestinian homeland. It represented over 75% of the Palestine Mandate administered by the Brits after they took over from the Ottomans after WWI.
Palestine was never ‘part’ of Jordan. Jordan is a recent invention.
Palestine was occupied by Jordan, but just because a country is occupied it doesn’t cease to exist as much as you would like it to.
http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html
I must have missed it on the list of UN member states.
Could you point it out for me on the list of UN member states please?
Are you sure it is a UN member state?
I think Jews only represent about 4% of the population of the US but they seem to control it. This has happened before in history when a simular percentage of Jews controlled the Bolchevik/Communist Soviet Union, interesting don’t you think?
must have missed it on the list of UN member states.Could you point it out for me on the list of UN member states please?Are you sure it is a UN member state?
I wonder if that could be down to a US veto? :)
Incidently you won’t find the Vatican either.
The vatican has about 100 acres of land.
Did the US veto recognition of Palestine as a sovereign country?
What were the proposed borders?
You must review the long list of UN Resolutions vetoed by the USA in regards to Palestine. Palestine is mentioned in at least 30 so it must exist.
http://www.myisraelsource.com/content/un3326
UN Resolution 3236Title:
UN Resolution 3236
Description:
UN Resolution 3236
Body text:
Resolution 3236
UN General Assembly 22 November 1974
The General Assembly Having considered the question of Palestine, Having heard the statement of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the representative of the Palestinian people, Having also heard other statements made during the debate, Deeply concerned that no just solution to the problem of Palestine has yet been achieved and recognizing that the problem of Palestine continues to endanger international peace and security, Recognizing that the Palestinian people is entitled to self-determination in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, Expressing its grave concern that the Palestinian people has been prevented from enjoying its inalienable rights, in particular its right to self-determination, Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter, Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,
Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including: ( a ) The right to self-determination without external interference; (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;
Reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return;
Emphasizes that full respect for and the realization of these inalienable rights of the Palestinian people are indispensable for the solution of the question of Palestine;
Recognizes that the Palestinian people is a principal party in the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East;
Further recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to regain its rights by all means in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations;
Appeals to all States and international organizations to extend their support to the Palestinian people in its struggle to restore its rights, in accordance with the Charter;
Requests the Secretary-General to establish contacts with the Palestine Liberation Organization on all matters concerning the question of Palestine;
Requests the Secretary-General to report to the General Assembly at its thirtieth session on the implementation of the present resolution;
Decides to include the item entitled “Question of Palestine” in the provisional agenda of its thirtieth session.
As I have said before, I’m all for a Palestinian state in principle. There are many issues to be resolved before this can happen.
The biggest barrier to statehood I believe is the fact that most (all?) of the Palestinian terror/liberation groups do not accept Israel. You can try to parse language and present a case that Palestine is or should be a sovereign state. But if we make such a generous reach for Palestine, then you cannot in the same breath deny full legitimacy to Israel. Israel IS a member state of the UN — and has been since the late 40’s.
The Palestinians need to come together and form a consensus view, and the government needs to enforce that consensus view. If its war — let it be war. They will lose. They will complain. They will not have a state. But the fault is theirs. If they choose peaceful coexistence in a 2 state solution, then there is a chance. We haven’t reached even that first step yet.
You can’t expect the Israelis to make security concessions when their own existence is questioned/denied by hostile neighbors. But in fact they have! They unilaterally pulled out of gaza last year. What did the Palestinians do? They used the newly aquired territory to launch attacks into Israel proper.
More nonsense Char lie, the Israelis haven’t stopped killing Palestinians and building further illegal settlements. Even since the Israeli terrorists has been held as a prisoner of war, Israel has killed over 60 Palestinians, destroyed bridges and the electricity supply.
Gaza , after the stage managed Israeli withdrawal, was turned into a huge concentration camp, food supplies stopped, medical assistance refused. Hamas and Palestine have already recognised Israel, the Jews and people like you refuse to recognise Palestinian.
The Jewish terrorists will continue to kill Palestinians with or without resistance, Israel isn’t interested in peace, they never have been, just more ethnic cleansing and land grabbing.
Not reported by today’s events in Iraq
A side road bomb exploded near an American military hummer on the road between Karbala and Hindya caused a total destruction of the vehicle, eyewitness said.
US forces surrounded the area prevented the eyewitness to see if there were any casualties.
Link in Arabic
Israeli army killed 951 Palestinian children and minors since September 2000
http://ptimes.org/Main/default.aspx?_ContentType=ART&_ContentID=5419184a-aae7-445e-9994-597cbb5fe912
The Israeli occupation army and paramilitary Jewish settlers have killed 951 Palestinian children and minors and have injured in varied degrees 18,811 others since 28 September 2000 when the al-Aqsa intifada broke out, according to an official report issued Sunday, 25 June, by the Palestinian Ministry of Health.
The report is based on death certificates issued by Palestinian hospitals in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which Palestinian health officials say assures its accuracy and reliability.
The largely statistical report which covers the period from 28 September 2001 to 20 June 2006 showed that 387 children and minors were killed in the West Bank while 564 others were killed in the Gaza Strip.
It also showed that numbers of children and minors killed by the Israeli army were particularly higher in the first years of the intifada with 187 killed between 28 September and 31 December 2000; 231 killed in 2001; 176 in 2002; and 180 in 2003.
In 2004, “only” 61 Palestinian children and minors were killed by the Israelis, and in 2005, the figure stood at 84.
So far this year, 32 Palestinian children and minors have been killed, according to the report. The numbers of the injured follow a similar pattern—high during the first three years of the intifada and then significantly lower since the start of 2004.
As to the age class of the victims, the report pointed out that 18 were 1 year or under; 42 between 1–4 years; 75 between 5–9 years; 255 between 10–14 years; and 561 between 15–18 years.
The report showed that of the injured, 11,937 were from the West Bank while the rest (or 6,874) were from the Gaza Strip. Of the total injured, at least 7.5% sustained permanent physical disabilities.
The report didn’t cover the psychological and mental damage sustained by children and minors.
Other studies, especially by the GazaCenter for Mental Health, presented staggering figures of children suffering from the psychological impact of the violence, with manifestations such as neurosis, depression, phobias, panic, and post-traumatic stress.
Furthermore, the report pointed out that 12 children and minors were killed by the Israeli army from 1 May to 20 June 2006, while 117 other children and minors were injured, some critically, during the same period.
Some of the high-profile killings of Palestinian children took place along the Gaza beach on 9 June when an Israeli artillery shell exterminated six member of the Ghalia family, including four children. Three more children were killed a few days later when an Israeli warplane fired an air-to-ground missile into a crowded street in downtown , killing nine people including at least three children.
All the figures cited in the report are of children and minors below the age of 18, according to Dr. Riyad Awad, head of the HealthInformationCenter, who prepared the report.
The report put the overall number of Palestinians killed by the Israeli occupation forces and paramilitary Jewish settlers since the onset of the Aqsa uprising six years ago at 4,234, including 1,945 in the West Bank, 2,193 in the Gaza Strip, 82 not registered and 14 in Israel proper.
The overall number of the injured is 57,369, including 32,379 in the West Bank, 15,555 in the Gaza Strip, 8,435 unregistered and 1,000 in Israel proper.
The Israeli B’tselem human rights organization put the number of Palestinians killed by the Israeli army over the past six years at 3,448, including 700 children and minors under the age of 18.
According to a B’tselem report issued on 10 June, 1,651 of the Palestinian victims were not taking part in hostilities at the time they were killed.
It is believed that of the estimated 1,000–1,100 Israelis killed by Palestinians during the same period, around 100 of them were children and minors.
Israeli sources put the number of Israelis injured by Palestinians at 6,000, the vast bulk of which are believed to have sustained minor injuries, including shock and mental trauma.
Most of the Israeli civilian casualties occurred as a result of suicidal (or martyrdom) operations inside Israel carried out by Palestinian human bombers.
Israeli leaders and spokesmen, seeking to maintain a higher moral ground vis-à-vis the Palestinians, insist—especially when talking to foreign media—that Israeli forces don’t deliberately target Palestinian civilians, especially children.
However, human rights organizations, including Israel’s B’tselem, argue that when civilian casualties are so numerous, intent becomes largely irrelevant.
Besides, Palestinian advocates argue that when ‘mistakes’ continue to happen nearly on a daily basis, it means they are policy.
I’m sure you are in denial so I won’t blame you, but I think its important to point out that Palestinian militants attacked Israel, captured a soldier, killed some others, and also captured and murdered a civilian. If I am not mistaken, those are overt acts of war.
The prisoner did not magiacally ‘appear’ in Paletinian custody.
So if you commit acts of war, you may well get war as a result. Surprise surprise!
Remind me why again? Oh yeah — Palestine attacked Israel, killed and captured some soldiers, and murdered some civilians.
I’m sure you are in denial so I won’t blame you, but I think its important to point out that Palestinian militants attacked Israel.
No they didn’t , the “attack” took place in occupied Palestine.
Since this illegal entry into Gaza was planned before the Israeli terrorist was captured I can’t help thinking that this was all a ploy by Israel to launch further terrorist action.
Stick with vague propaganda rhetoric perroquet. You are wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME when it comes to actual facts.
The attack against Israel was planned and prepared months in advance. A tunnel hundreds of meters long was dug under the border. The attack was in Israel.
I’m not going to call it a terrorist attack (although I think they captured and murdered a couple of civilians as well). I think it was a military operation by the PAlestinian government against Israel. It is an act of war. Any attack from Palestinian territories against Israel is an act of war and should be treated accordingly.
The atrocities carried out by American forces in Iraq on a daily basis are nothing new, exactly the same thing happened in Vietnam.
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/one-soldier-cut-off-babys-head-with_11.html
I’ll give you a hint: You don’t want to know.
Operating largely on their own and only passingly accountable to a chain of command that rarely ventured into the jungles and paddies, these soldiers ruthlessly murdered hundreds of unarmed men, women and children. One soldier cut off a baby’s head with a knife. Victims’ ears were regularly sliced off, collected and fashioned into necklaces which some soldiers proudly wore. Other victims were scalped. Some were tortured. Teeth were kicked out to retrieve the gold from fillings.Still can’t figure out who did it?
Virtually all of the civilian deaths were reported as “Viet Cong,” even though, oddly, no weapons were ever found and none were ever reported. No officer in command ever questioned this glaring disparity.
That’s right — US soldiers. Now, guess who hid it?
That part of Tiger Force is grim enough. What the Army then did with the evidence is shocking, and what was covered up in 1974–75 may have sowed the headlines we are reaping in 2006. One of the most thorough Criminal Investigation Division (CID, the Army’s internal FBI) investigations ever conducted, meticulously gathered the facts surrounding the war crimes committed by Tiger Force. The evidence was voluminous, certain and had been obtained at the risk of a few investigators’ lives.
In 1974–75, Richard Cheney was a special assistant to President Ford. Ford’s chief of staff was Donald Rumsfeld. The secretary of defense from 1973–75 was James Schlesinger.
The case was made to disappear by these men who served presidents Nixon and Ford — probably out of considerations of politics. There were never any charges filed against the soldiers or the officers who ordered and participated in the routine killing of civilians.
The usual suspects are decades deep in their satanic deeds. No doubt, they hid it because they could.The only reason the case file ever became public was that the CID officer who directed the investigation, and who later commanded the Criminal Investigation Division, kept a copy of the investigation file, and prior to his death in 2002 made provision for the file to be delivered to a reporter with the Toledo Blade.
Thirty years later, Mr. Rumsfeld refuses to discuss the Tiger Force case. Mr. Cheney declines to discuss much of anything. Mr. Schlesinger conducted one of the see-no-evil investigations at Abu Ghraib. The senior leadership of the Army and the nation prefers to characterize war crimes as the work of a few “bad apples.” My Lai was pinned to Lt. William Calley, who suited the bad apple role.
Tiger Force was far larger, killed three times as many people, but involved too many “bad apples” and too much gore to maintain the right story line.
The common thread which runs from Tiger Force through My Lai, to Guantanamo, Bagram and Abu Ghraib, to a hundred episodes of sadistic brutality inflicted by U.S. soldiers in Iraq, is the remarkable fact that the official responsibility for all these tragedies never runs higher than the lowest-level trigger-pullers or body-stackers.
No surprise there. Why do your own dirty work WHEN YOU CAN PAY SOMEONE DIRTY MONEY TO DO IT and then blame them when they’re caught redhanded.
Cheney and Rumsfeld are pulling the same sh*t in Iraq today.
If we don’t do something — FAST — to get these war criminals out of office and our military out of other countries, inevitably, someone will make us pay a VERY HIGH PRICE for their unspeakable crimes — and their phony currency won’t satisfy the debt — only our blood will.