http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/one-soldier-cut-off-babys-head-with_11.html

I’ll give you a hint: You don’t want to know.

Operating largely on their own and only passingly accountable to a chain of command that rarely ventured into the jungles and paddies, these soldiers ruthlessly murdered hundreds of unarmed men, women and children. One soldier cut off a baby’s head with a knife. Victims’ ears were regularly sliced off, collected and fashioned into necklaces which some soldiers proudly wore. Other victims were scalped. Some were tortured. Teeth were kicked out to retrieve the gold from fillings.Still can’t figure out who did it?
Virtually all of the civilian deaths were reported as “Viet Cong,” even though, oddly, no weapons were ever found and none were ever reported. No officer in command ever questioned this glaring disparity.
That’s right — US soldiers. Now, guess who hid it?
That part of Tiger Force is grim enough. What the Army then did with the evidence is shocking, and what was covered up in 1974–75 may have sowed the headlines we are reaping in 2006. One of the most thorough Criminal Investigation Division (CID, the Army’s internal FBI) investigations ever conducted, meticulously gathered the facts surrounding the war crimes committed by Tiger Force. The evidence was voluminous, certain and had been obtained at the risk of a few investigators’ lives.

In 1974–75, Richard Cheney was a special assistant to President Ford. Ford’s chief of staff was Donald Rumsfeld. The secretary of defense from 1973–75 was James Schlesinger.

The case was made to disappear by these men who served presidents Nixon and Ford — probably out of considerations of politics. There were never any charges filed against the soldiers or the officers who ordered and participated in the routine killing of civilians.
The usual suspects are decades deep in their satanic deeds. No doubt, they hid it because they could.The only reason the case file ever became public was that the CID officer who directed the investigation, and who later commanded the Criminal Investigation Division, kept a copy of the investigation file, and prior to his death in 2002 made provision for the file to be delivered to a reporter with the Toledo Blade.

Thirty years later, Mr. Rumsfeld refuses to discuss the Tiger Force case. Mr. Cheney declines to discuss much of anything. Mr. Schlesinger conducted one of the see-no-evil investigations at Abu Ghraib. The senior leadership of the Army and the nation prefers to characterize war crimes as the work of a few “bad apples.” My Lai was pinned to Lt. William Calley, who suited the bad apple role.

Tiger Force was far larger, killed three times as many people, but involved too many “bad apples” and too much gore to maintain the right story line.

The common thread which runs from Tiger Force through My Lai, to Guantanamo, Bagram and Abu Ghraib, to a hundred episodes of sadistic brutality inflicted by U.S. soldiers in Iraq, is the remarkable fact that the official responsibility for all these tragedies never runs higher than the lowest-level trigger-pullers or body-stackers.
No surprise there. Why do your own dirty work WHEN YOU CAN PAY SOMEONE DIRTY MONEY TO DO IT and then blame them when they’re caught redhanded.

Cheney and Rumsfeld are pulling the same sh*t in Iraq today.

If we don’t do something — FAST — to get these war criminals out of office and our military out of other countries, inevitably, someone will make us pay a VERY HIGH PRICE for their unspeakable crimes — and their phony currency won’t satisfy the debt — only our blood will.

Stick with vague propaganda rhetoric perroquet. You are wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME when it comes to actual facts.

The attack against Israel was planned and prepared months in advance. A tunnel hundreds of meters long was dug under the border. The attack was in Israel.

I’m not going to call it a terrorist attack (although I think they captured and murdered a couple of civilians as well). I think it was a military operation by the PAlestinian government against Israel. It is an act of war. Any attack from Palestinian territories against Israel is an act of war and should be treated accordingly.

No they didn’t , the “attack” took place in occupied Palestine.
Since this illegal entry into Gaza was planned before the Israeli terrorist was captured I can’t help thinking that this was all a ploy by Israel to launch further terrorist action.

Even since the Israeli terrorists has been held as a prisoner of war,

I’m sure you are in denial so I won’t blame you, but I think its important to point out that Palestinian militants attacked Israel, captured a soldier, killed some others, and also captured and murdered a civilian. If I am not mistaken, those are overt acts of war.

The prisoner did not magiacally ‘appear’ in Paletinian custody.

So if you commit acts of war, you may well get war as a result. Surprise surprise!

Israel has killed over 60 Palestinians, destroyed bridges and the electricity supply.

Remind me why again? Oh yeah — Palestine attacked Israel, killed and captured some soldiers, and murdered some civilians.

http://ptimes.org/Main/default.aspx?_ContentType=ART&_ContentID=5419184a-aae7-445e-9994-597cbb5fe912

The Israeli occupation army and paramilitary Jewish settlers have killed 951 Palestinian children and minors and have injured in varied degrees 18,811 others since 28 September 2000 when the al-Aqsa intifada broke out, according to an official report issued Sunday, 25 June, by the Palestinian Ministry of Health.
The report is based on death certificates issued by Palestinian hospitals in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which Palestinian health officials say assures its accuracy and reliability.

The largely statistical report which covers the period from 28 September 2001 to 20 June 2006 showed that 387 children and minors were killed in the West Bank while 564 others were killed in the Gaza Strip.

It also showed that numbers of children and minors killed by the Israeli army were particularly higher in the first years of the intifada with 187 killed between 28 September and 31 December 2000; 231 killed in 2001; 176 in 2002; and 180 in 2003.

In 2004, “only” 61 Palestinian children and minors were killed by the Israelis, and in 2005, the figure stood at 84.

So far this year, 32 Palestinian children and minors have been killed, according to the report. The numbers of the injured follow a similar pattern—high during the first three years of the intifada and then significantly lower since the start of 2004.

As to the age class of the victims, the report pointed out that 18 were 1 year or under; 42 between 1–4 years; 75 between 5–9 years; 255 between 10–14 years; and 561 between 15–18 years.

The report showed that of the injured, 11,937 were from the West Bank while the rest (or 6,874) were from the Gaza Strip. Of the total injured, at least 7.5% sustained permanent physical disabilities.

The report didn’t cover the psychological and mental damage sustained by children and minors.

Other studies, especially by the GazaCenter for Mental Health, presented staggering figures of children suffering from the psychological impact of the violence, with manifestations such as neurosis, depression, phobias, panic, and post-traumatic stress.

Furthermore, the report pointed out that 12 children and minors were killed by the Israeli army from 1 May to 20 June 2006, while 117 other children and minors were injured, some critically, during the same period.

Some of the high-profile killings of Palestinian children took place along the Gaza beach on 9 June when an Israeli artillery shell exterminated six member of the Ghalia family, including four children. Three more children were killed a few days later when an Israeli warplane fired an air-to-ground missile into a crowded street in downtown , killing nine people including at least three children.

All the figures cited in the report are of children and minors below the age of 18, according to Dr. Riyad Awad, head of the HealthInformationCenter, who prepared the report.

The report put the overall number of Palestinians killed by the Israeli occupation forces and paramilitary Jewish settlers since the onset of the Aqsa uprising six years ago at 4,234, including 1,945 in the West Bank, 2,193 in the Gaza Strip, 82 not registered and 14 in Israel proper.

The overall number of the injured is 57,369, including 32,379 in the West Bank, 15,555 in the Gaza Strip, 8,435 unregistered and 1,000 in Israel proper.

The Israeli B’tselem human rights organization put the number of Palestinians killed by the Israeli army over the past six years at 3,448, including 700 children and minors under the age of 18.

According to a B’tselem report issued on 10 June, 1,651 of the Palestinian victims were not taking part in hostilities at the time they were killed.

It is believed that of the estimated 1,000–1,100 Israelis killed by Palestinians during the same period, around 100 of them were children and minors.

Israeli sources put the number of Israelis injured by Palestinians at 6,000, the vast bulk of which are believed to have sustained minor injuries, including shock and mental trauma.

Most of the Israeli civilian casualties occurred as a result of suicidal (or martyrdom) operations inside Israel carried out by Palestinian human bombers.

Israeli leaders and spokesmen, seeking to maintain a higher moral ground vis-à-vis the Palestinians, insist—especially when talking to foreign media—that Israeli forces don’t deliberately target Palestinian civilians, especially children.

However, human rights organizations, including Israel’s B’tselem, argue that when civilian casualties are so numerous, intent becomes largely irrelevant.

Besides, Palestinian advocates argue that when ‘mistakes’ continue to happen nearly on a daily basis, it means they are policy.

A side road bomb exploded near an American military hummer on the road between Karbala and Hindya caused a total destruction of the vehicle, eyewitness said.

US forces surrounded the area prevented the eyewitness to see if there were any casualties.

Link in Arabic

The biggest barrier to statehood I believe is the fact that most (all?) of the Palestinian terror/liberation groups do not accept Israel. You can try to parse language and present a case that Palestine is or should be a sovereign state. But if we make such a generous reach for Palestine, then you cannot in the same breath deny full legitimacy to Israel. Israel IS a member state of the UN — and has been since the late 40’s.

The Palestinians need to come together and form a consensus view, and the government needs to enforce that consensus view. If its war — let it be war. They will lose. They will complain. They will not have a state. But the fault is theirs. If they choose peaceful coexistence in a 2 state solution, then there is a chance. We haven’t reached even that first step yet.

You can’t expect the Israelis to make security concessions when their own existence is questioned/denied by hostile neighbors. But in fact they have! They unilaterally pulled out of gaza last year. What did the Palestinians do? They used the newly aquired territory to launch attacks into Israel proper.

UN Resolution 3236Title:
UN Resolution 3236
Description:
UN Resolution 3236
Body text:

Resolution 3236
UN General Assembly 22 November 1974

The General Assembly Having considered the question of Palestine, Having heard the statement of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the representative of the Palestinian people, Having also heard other statements made during the debate, Deeply concerned that no just solution to the problem of Palestine has yet been achieved and recognizing that the problem of Palestine continues to endanger international peace and security, Recognizing that the Palestinian people is entitled to self-determination in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, Expressing its grave concern that the Palestinian people has been prevented from enjoying its inalienable rights, in particular its right to self-determination, Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter, Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including: ( a ) The right to self-determination without external interference; (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;
Reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return;
Emphasizes that full respect for and the realization of these inalienable rights of the Palestinian people are indispensable for the solution of the question of Palestine;
Recognizes that the Palestinian people is a principal party in the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East;
Further recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to regain its rights by all means in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations;
Appeals to all States and international organizations to extend their support to the Palestinian people in its struggle to restore its rights, in accordance with the Charter;
Requests the Secretary-General to establish contacts with the Palestine Liberation Organization on all matters concerning the question of Palestine;
Requests the Secretary-General to report to the General Assembly at its thirtieth session on the implementation of the present resolution;
Decides to include the item entitled “Question of Palestine” in the provisional agenda of its thirtieth session.