What Jewish bloggers are saying?
“Do they stop for even half a second to think how they would feel if an Arab nation bombed Tel Aviv to gain the upper hand on some Israeli political/military faction?”
Israel’s economy is sustained by its arms industry and by military aid from abroad. If there is no war, there is no money flowing into the region. Therefore, I believe that Israel may choose military options when unnecessary, seeking out justifications for the escalation of the conflict.
“Sorry for the Lebanese, but they are simply paying the price for their ( government’s and the UN’s ) weakness and indecisiveness. The UN, France and several other countries and international organizations think that it should be only Israel that pays that price. Well, I couldn’t care less. It seems that most French believe that Zinadine Zidane had the right to defend the honor of his mother and sister in a violent way. With all due respect, the safety of my family and of all soldiers and citizens of my country means more to me than the honor of les dames Zidane, and I think that Israel’s violence is well measured and not less proportional than Zizou’s”.
8 Comments, Comment or Ping
Charles
Do YOU stop to think that Israel is a sovereign nation and has not let its sovereignty be compromised by internal rogue militas overtly supported by foreign dictatorships?
You may not like Israel, but it certainly exerts sovereign authority over its territory.
Jul 16th, 2006
Richard Silverstein
Horsecrap, Charles. I like Israel just fine. It’s her policies regarding her Arab neighbors that are totally messed up (I was thinking of a tad harsher word but didn’t want to offend the site owner).
This conflict is far more complicated than you make it out to be. Israel is a sovereign nation which meddles in the affairs of its neighbors by casually invading them every decade or two (often more frequently than that). It has a curious effect on them–they don’t like it. And when it’s not invading them, it’s targeting some of their more strident citizens for assassination and often killing innocent civilians in the process.
It makes for a nasty mess of a relationship with those neighbors.
Jul 19th, 2006
Charles
Richard,
“meddles in the affairs of its neighbors”
Interestingly put.
What would you call it when you are outnumbered 100:1 and the official line by neighboring governments is that you should not exist?
Since inception, Israel has been under existential threat. Not just theoretically, but in practice. Most of the neighbors who get ‘meddled’ with happen to be engaged in hostile behavior towards Israel.
Do you have any examples of Israeli ‘meddling’ which seem to you purely capricious? If they kill a known enemy terrorist leader who is being harbored by a neighboring country, is that not justified?
Can you enlighten me please with examples of ‘casual’ invasion?
You are completely ignoring context.
Jul 19th, 2006
Michael
Char lie What would you call it when you are outnumbered 100:1
What have numbers to do with it? Israel is at least the 5th strongest military power in the world thanks to the stupid Yanquis.
and the official line by neighboring governments is that you should not exist?
That’s not true at all, all Israel’s neighbours recognise the Jewish apartheid state, the problem is Israel doesn’t recognise Palestine.
Since inception, Israel has been under existential threat. Not just theoretically, but in practise.
Israel has waged unprovoked war on their neighbours continuously since 1948, particularly in 1956,1967, 1973, 1982 and of course 2006.
Most of the neighbors who get ‘meddled’ with happen to be engaged in hostile behavior towards Israel.
The Jew’s aggressive behaviour has that affect.
Israel is a State born out of terrorism, at least 3 Israeli leaders have personally been involved, it is a racist, apartheid State.
This latest episode is going to destroy their victim status, not that they ever were victims of course. Under the Bolshevik/Communist revolution in the Soviet Union it was the Russian Jews that ran the gulags, killing at least 30 million Christians and 2 million Muslims. Just read some of the Talmud and you will realise that the description “chosen ones” is a synonym for “master race” and you Char lie, being a goyim, are just as expendable to them as any Arab.
Jul 19th, 2006
Michael
These people were the “victims” in an holocaust?
Israeli children sign their missiles ‘with love’
link is here
Jul 19th, 2006
Michael
“WAR” IN MIDDLE EAST:
link is here. . . .
THE EVENTS TAKING PLACE IN ISRAEL, THE GAZA STRIP, THE WEST BANK, SYRIA AND LEBANON HAVE ALL BEEN CAREFULLY PLANNED - BY ISRAEL - TO ACHIEVE ISRAELI GOALS
We all know the old adage “The first casualty of war is the truth.” Never has it been more clear than with the present hostilities happening in the Middle East.
The main stream media would have us believe that Israel has been the victim of rocket attacks and kidnapped solders for which they are acting militarily. Sadly, that is not the truth.
First, a little recap of recent history:
In January, 2006 the Palestinian people elected members of HAMAS to political office. This did not sit well with the Israeli government or its U.S. puppet. George W. Bush frequently told America that we toppled Saddam Hussein to install a democracy. Yet when the Palestinian people utilized their democracy to elect HAMAS, Bush began acting against them! The hypocrisy is rank. Still, HAMAS extended the hand of peace to Israel. They did so in writing. Khalid Mish’al is head of the political bureau of Hamas. Read his letter Here.
Instead of talking with HAMAS, Israel began talking to everyone else about getting rid of HAMAS. So intent was Israel to ignore the lawfully elected Palestinian government, that less than sixty days after the election, while the HAMAS government was still brand new and getting a feel for what to do, Israel launched an overt military action of a most foul nature.
For years, the Palestinian Authority held in prison, a number of men convicted of assassinating an Israeli official. The men were held in the prison at Jericho and were “monitored” by the British who agreed to keep monitors in that prison to make certain things were right.
On March 14, the British “monitors” suddenly decided to leave the prison. The Israeli military just happened to see the monitors leave. Within minutes, the Israeli army attacked the prison with troops and tanks!
The Israelis thought that the prisoners were too comfortable; they weren’t being punished with sufficient barbarity. The Israelis decided to change that by attacking the prison and taking the men to an Israeli prison by force. Read about that attack against the sovereign Palestinian Government Prison Here.
One week after attacking the sovereign Palestinian government prison and taking its prisoners by force; Israel told the world they would UNILATERALLY decide the final borders for Israel!
This declaration flew in the face of the Oslo Accords, flew in the face of a number of United Nations Security Council Resolutions and, of course, was a direct slap at the new HAMAS lead, Palestinian government.
Read the announcement of the Unilateral Border decision from the Jerusalem Post as it was published on March 21
Not content to have raided another government’s prison and taken its prisoners by force; not content to have announced they would unilaterally decide their own borders, Israel went even further. On March 23, just a week before the Israeli elections, Israel announced outright that it simply would not deal with the lawfully, democratically-elected HAMAS government.
In a follow-up story published in the Jerusalem Post, Israel announced how they viewed resistance to anything they dictate. They stated bluntly “What is resistance if not terrorism?” So Israel not only decided what it wants and that it will IMPOSE its will on everyone, they also decided anyone who disagrees is automatically a “terrorist” against whom “Israel has a right to defend itself.” There’s a word for this: Totalitarian.
Read this extensive article in which the Israeli Defense Minister makes plain: Anyone who resists Israel is a terrorist.
With things going as badly as shown above, the newly elected Palestinian Prime Minister ISMAIL HANIYEH, spoke to the world.
He pointed out that the Palestinians are being denied their basic rights by Israel. He made clear that no one is asking anything of Israel while the Palestinians themselves are being dictated to.
He made clear the situation is a recipe for conflict. No one listened.
Read the Prime Minister’s statement warning.
In April, May and June, the Israeli military commenced shelling of Palestinian CIVILIANS. According to sources in both Israel and Palestine, upward of five thousand (5,000) artillery shells PER MONTH were landing on Palestinian areas. Hundreds of innocent civilians were injured, dozens were killed.
Sadly, the world only heard of ONE such shelling; when the Israelis wiped out an entire family picnicking on a beach. The world was shocked and sickened to see photos and video of a lone 7 year old girl survivor, as she clung to the dead bodies of her family on the beach.
In May and June, SEVENTY-EIGHT (78) Palestinians were killed by Israel.Read the Death Toll here
By mid June, the Palestinians had enough. They began retaliating for the artillery shelling by launching a few Qassam rockets into Israel.
On June 21, an Israeli reported the situation with unusual candor; mocking “A week of Israeli restraint.”
Sadly, just ONE HOUR after the story above went to press, Israel killed
three more children in a street in northern GAZA with additional shelling.
As Israeli shelling continued, Palestinians fought back. In a daring raid, they
captured a single IDF Corporal and took him prisoner. Israel called it
a “Kidnapping.”
Here in America when someone is kidnapped, we call the police. The FBI. In fact, that’s generally what happens in every civilized nation on earth. Not Israel.
Israel went berserk! They launched a major military offensive, sending troops, tanks and armored personnel carriers into GAZA. They attacked people and buildings. The Israeli Air Force bombed Palestinian government buildings. The Israelis even arrested dozens of elected officials!
On what charges? No one knows.
Few even care.
Those officials they cannot arrest, they try to assassinate! In one botched
assassination attempt, Israel killed twenty three innocent Palestinians.Read about this atrocity here.
In another assassination attempt, Israel bombed a private house,
killing a family of nine as they slept! Read about this atrocity here.
The jews have gone completely nuts, attacking, killing and arresting Palestinians. But even that wasn’t enough to satisfy Israeli blood lust.
The Israelis then attacked Lebanon! They have been bombing civilian areas!
Homes. Apartment buildings. The murderous carnage is disgusting.
So brutal, so murderous are the Israelis they even deliberately set-up people to be killed. In Lebanon, Israeli troops ordered people to evacuate and area, then called in an air strike to incinerate the evacuation convoy, incinerating at least fifteen children! UN Peace Keepers were reportedly “in tears” at the carnage. Read about this war crime here.
Those killings came just after Israel killed 32 other civilians during the bombings of bridges inside Lebanon!
ALL of this violence was precipitated by Israel. ALL of the deaths and injuries are at the hands or caused by the decisions of Israel.
So the next time you hear an Israeli or one of their defenders say ‘”Israel has
a right to defend itself” remember, so does everyone else.
Israel are the terrorists. Israel are the aggressors. The proof is irrefutable!
If someone killed 78 Americans in one month, would YOU fight them? If that same someone went on to kill 23 Americans in another attack, or slaughtered a family of nine while they slept, would YOU fight back?
The Arabs are the good guys. We in the U.S. have been backing the wrong side.
Jul 19th, 2006
Michael
link is here
Jul 19th, 2006
Jon
I can’t believe you’re censoring me.
Jul 20th, 2006