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36 Responses to Al Qa’ida Fear” — swallow it

  1. Charles says:

    You may rec­og­nize other time proven award win­ning titles from our video library including:

    The Myth of Pales­tine (sold in some mar­kets with the sub title ‘how to focus arab pop­u­la­tion atten­tions away from mun­dane top­ics such as lib­erty and pros­per­ity, and keep them chant­ing for the destruc­tion of Israel’).

    While sim­i­lar in nature and tar­get mar­ket, these titles should not be con­fused with:

    Arab National Socialism

    Pan-Arab National Socialism

    The Joy of Cook­ing in a Pales­tin­ian refugee camp*

    * Spe­cial sec­tion detail­ing how cer­tain recipes have been passed down through 4 gen­er­a­tions of peo­ple liv­ing in the same shack with no inter­nal plumb­ing. ‘How to’ tuto­ri­als with sim­ple pic­tures and charts.

    Why do we live here?*

    * Watch the inspir­ing attes­ta­tions by pro­fes­sional refugee camp dwellers, and the coun­tries who keep them liv­ing in squalor, about the impor­tance of prin­ci­ple — even if it costs your future.
    Embrace World­wide Islamism — the only proven way to stop the progress of time

    Bank­rupt Modernism*

    * spe­cial in depth sec­tion explain­ing why our schools need to pro­duce more islamic schol­ars, and fewer engineers

    Mohammed and the Green Party of [insert your coun­try name here]*

    * This pro­foundly sci­en­tific doc­u­men­tary proves that Mohammed was the first true envi­ron­men­tal­ist. He strongly believed in con­trol­ling pop­u­la­tion growth in other soci­eties. This expose tracks the progress of islamic cul­ture through the cen­turies in its fight against human incur­sions on mother nature via sci­en­tific and indus­trial progress. (run­ning time: 7 minutes).

    All titles are sold sep­a­rately — but for a lim­ited time we are offer­ing the entire pack­aged set. All pay­ment types that would have been accepted by mohammed, are accepted by us. We pre­fer young female slaves, camels, pil­laged spoils. Cer­tain cus­tomers will be able to barter the souls of their chil­dren and their off­spring for the next 6 generations.

    CALL NOW!

  2. Hey Charles, its out in the open now, huh?

    Your Islam­o­pho­bic, Xeno­pho­bic White Suprema­cist junk.

    Good for ya! I am glad you mus­tered the courage to show us you really have no courage.

    Just spew anti-Islamic musings.

    Bravo. What else? You are just prov­ing our points over and over.

  3. Robert Frost says:

    LOL Charles!!

  4. Charles says:

    Just spew anti-Islamic musings.

    Racist blablabla. Don’t speak my lan­guage blablabla.

    Hey — If LB is allowed to post such garbage, why can’t I?

    Where’s you sense of humor man?

    I thought a cou­ple were pretty good…

    Oh yes — i’ll admit it — this whole ter­ror­ism thing is a myth, and the ‘Pales­tini­ans’ are a true ‘nation’ and unique eth­nic­ity and cul­ture and Israel has offended the ‘arab nation’ by it exis­tence. We all know that before IUs­rael existed, there was a lovely coun­try called Pales­tine. All arabs rally together to make sure that the one true his­tor­i­cally revered and famous Pales­tine once again takes its true place among the nations of man!

    75% of the Pales­tine man­date isn’t enough. We want ALL of it!

    Let’s go kill some jews and go talk about how racist Charles is…

  5. Now, Charles, in addi­tion to being racist, you are get­ting des­per­ate … you sound infan­tile to say the least.

  6. Charles says:

    Excel­lent retort TAI!

    Right on cue.

  7. Charles says:

    Hi Frost,

    I also saw that video. The con­text is not 100% clear — but it is absolutely clear that armed mil­i­tants escaped in a clearly marked UN ambulance.

    Our friends in Blue’

  8. Here is a bet­ter one.

    These are Charles’ friends. Keep all this in mind the next time you hear of some grandiose holier-than-thou con­cept of US justice.

    Some say the truth will set you free. In this case, it is your captor.

    Sergeant Tells of Plot to Kill Iraqi Detainees
    By ROBERT F. WORTHNY TIMES
    For more than a month after the killings, Sgt. Lemuel Lemus stuck to his story.

    Then, on June 15, Sergeant Lemus offered a new and much darker account.

    Many ques­tions remain about the case, which is sched­uled for an Arti­cle 32 hear­ing on Tues­day in Iraq. But what­ever the truth about that day, Sergeant Lemus’s sworn state­ment — which was obtained by The New York Times — pro­vides an extra­or­di­nary win­dow into the pres­sures Amer­i­can sol­diers face in Iraq, where wartime chaos and the imper­a­tive of loy­alty often com­pli­cate ques­tions of right and wrong.

    The mis­sion that led to the killings started at dawn on May 9, when sol­diers with the Third Brigade Com­bat Team of the 101st Air­borne Divi­sion landed in a remote area near a for­mer chem­i­cal plant not far from Samarra, accord­ing to legal doc­u­ments and lawyers for the accused sol­diers. It was the site of a sus­pected insur­gent train­ing camp and was con­sid­ered extremely dangerous.

    The two lawyers say Colonel Steele has indi­cated that he will not tes­tify at the Arti­cle 32 hear­ing — the mil­i­tary equiv­a­lent of a grand jury hear­ing — or answer any ques­tions about the case. Calls and e-mail mes­sages to a civil­ian lawyer said to be rep­re­sent­ing Colonel Steele were not returned.

    It is very rare for any com­mand­ing offi­cer to refuse to tes­tify at any stage of a court-martial pro­ceed­ing, said Gary D. Solis, a for­mer mil­i­tary judge and pros­e­cu­tor who teaches the law of war at George­town University.

    Soon after­ward, Sergeant Lemus recounted, he was stand­ing near the land­ing zone when he heard shouts and bursts of gun­fire. He saw the detainees run­ning and then falling to the ground. He walked back to the scene and asked Sergeant Girouard what happened.

    Sergeant Girouard has been charged with pre­med­i­tated mur­der, a cap­i­tal offense, as have three other sol­diers: Spe­cial­ist William B. Hun­saker, Pfc. Corey R. Clagett and Spe­cial­ist Jus­ton R. Graber. Pri­vate Clagett and Spe­cial­ist Hun­saker are accused of actu­ally shoot­ing the prisoners.

    Mr. Bergrin, the lawyer who rep­re­sents Pri­vate Clagett, and Mr. Wadding­ton, who rep­re­sents Spe­cial­ist Hun­saker, dis­pute Sergeant Lemus’s account. They say the pris­on­ers broke free as two sol­diers were fix­ing the zip ties, which were com­ing loose. They say the pris­on­ers stabbed Spe­cial­ist Hun­saker and punched Pri­vate Clagett before try­ing to flee.

    Two ini­tial inves­ti­ga­tions of the killings by com­man­ders found no wrong­do­ing. It is not clear who even­tu­ally came for­ward to tell com­man­ders that there was another ver­sion of what hap­pened on May 9.

    Sergeant Lemus said he laughed off the threat at the time. But there may have been other threats. In addi­tion to mur­der, the four accused sol­diers are charged with threat­en­ing to kill Pfc. Bradley L. Mason, one of the men in the squad, if he told what he knew about the shootings.

    And this is one of thou­sands of stories .…

    Remem­ber Haditha. Remem­ber the rape of Abeer.

  9. Can some­one please, please kill Ayman Al-Zawahiri and his pal Osama bin Laden.

    Please?

    Why have these two been allowed to survive …

    Ah…

  10. Pic­tures and files will con­tinue to emerge.

    Occu­pa­tions always fail. In one day, or a 1000 years. Occuap­tions ulti­mately fail.

    So does racism and big­otry, Xenophobia.

    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/289/692/1600/Israeli4_Orthodox.2.jpg More well wished from Israel to the chil­dren of Lebanon

  11. Pres­i­dent George Bush.

    Rep­re­sen­ta­tive of the Amer­i­can people.

    A Sun repoter asks what is your mes­sage to Iran and Syria?

    Bush: My mes­sage is to give up their nuclear weapon. And their nuclear weapon ambitions.

    Er, George, Iran doesn’t have a nuclear weapon, remem­ber? So where did you pick that up from?

    Hmmm …

    Watch him in a few years deny ever say­ing that. Just like Iraq and Al-Qaida. Iraq and 911.

    Later, he said “We got a great weapon on our side, and its called Free­dom and Liberty.”

    Er … free­dom and lib­erty are weapons? What a sad way to look at free­dom and liberty.

    So, here’s the thing, right. Every time you hear the words free­dom and lib­erty in a Bush speech, expect an inva­sion, a pre-emptive war, an occu­pa­tion, etc.

    If I were to sit and crit­i­cize the press con­fer­ence today, I would need a volume …

    Absolutely ridicu­lous.

  12. Charles says:

    What a sad way to look at free­dom and liberty.

    Um, I thought that was the whole idea behind pro­gres­sive peace move­ments, etc.

    Don’t fight guns with guns — rather put daisies down the barrels.

    The best ‘weapon’ against total­i­tar­ian forces IS free­dom and liberty.

    Or do you pre­fer bul­lets and bombs?

    The lat­ter I see as a short term tac­tic to be used when nec­es­sary. But­this tac­tic should always serve the above strategy.

    Make up your mind.

    It is easy to make fun of Bush I admit. But you chose a pretty dumb example.

  13. Michael says:

    Bush: My mes­sage is to give up their nuclear weapon. And their nuclear weapon ambitions.

    Er, George, Iran doesn’t have a nuclear weapon, remem­ber? So where did you pick that up from?

    Hey if Bush says that, it must be true, ask Charles he still believes every­thing Bush said about Iraq.
    Bush knows of course if he spouts this rub­bish 60% of Amer­i­cans auto­mat­i­cally believe it’s cor­rect. It’s a maniac run­ning an asylum.

  14. Charles says:

    Nice ‘illu­mi­nat­ing’ link Frost.

    I’m sure per­ro­quet, LB, and TAI have a good expla­na­tion though…

    Some­thing to do with racism.

  15. Robert Frost says:

    TAI

    Occu­pa­tions always fail. In one day, or a 1000 years. Occuap­tions ulti­mately fail.

    TAI were you refer­ing to the first men who walked our earth, or the first EUs the “Cro-Magnon peo­ples”, or was it the Nean­derathals, ahh.. the Incas, how ’bout the curly toed Per­sians, or the Romans, or the pre-Saudi Bedouins, heh the Nor­mans were the first Frogs right, didn’t the Caliphs do a lit­tle loose squat­ting around, or were you refer­ring to the all the the Sioux Injun tribes TAI?

    So does racism and big­otry, Xenophobia.

    I gues­sum thats why you alway throwith the first stone TAI, ’cause you be puri­fied an all holy an such.

    M’kay TAI you finally con­vinced me it’s all Mr. ChimpyBushHitler’s fault, or Hal­libur­tons, or the “neo cons”, or evil Dick Cheney, or wal-mart, or car­bon gas, or the fetus in the preg­nant woman’s uterus, any­one.. any­thing but the Ummah terrorists..anything..plz

    ONE UMMAH UBERALIS

  16. Robert Frost says:

    ONE UMMAH UBERALIS

    i think I’ll rite a poem…someday

  17. Michael says:

    Amer­i­cans gen­er­ally have no sense of his­tory or inter­est in cul­ture, par­tic­u­larly the US Army which is the main is com­prised of social mis­fits and crim­i­nals. Unfor­tu­nately the dam­age these bar­bar­ians are caus­ing in Iraq can never be repaired , it is being lost for­ever.
    http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/10688123.html

    US troops bull­doze 1,000-year old his­toric dis­trict in al-Qa’im, turn it into soc­cer field.
    Iraqi Resis­tance Report
    Trans­lated and/or com­piled by Muham­mad Abu Nasr, mem­ber, edi­to­r­ial board, the Free Arab Voice.

    July 27, 2006

    Al-Anbar Province.

    Al-Qa’im.

    US troops bull­doze 1,000-year old his­toric dis­trict in al-Qa’im, turn it into soc­cer field.

    In a dis­patch posted at 2:55pm Makkah time Thurs­day after­noon, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that US occu­pa­tion forces had demol­ished a thousand-year old his­toric dis­trict dat­ing back to the First Abbasi Period (762–833 C.E.) in the city of al-Qa’im near the Iraq-Syria bor­der, turn­ing it into a soc­cer field.

    The Bagh­dad cor­re­spon­dent for Mafkarat al-Islam reported an announce­ment issued by the Depart­ment of Antiq­ui­ties and signed by ‘Abd al-Karim Falih, the department’s direc­tor, on Thurs­day as say­ing that the Amer­i­cans had destroyed a his­toric dis­trict dat­ing from the Abbasi period, com­pletely lev­el­ing it with bull­doz­ers and other equipment.

    The Antiq­ui­ties Depart­ment announce­ment said that the Amer­i­cans bull­dozed the area into a soc­cer field despite the fact that it was fenced off with signs posted warn­ing against going inside because it was a His­toric Islamic Her­itage District.

    The state­ment denounced the behav­ior of the Amer­i­cans say­ing that the dis­trict told the story of the Abbasi era, a time of great flow­er­ing of Arab-Islamic culture.

    Mafkarat al-Islam noted that the US forces have destroyed seven his­tor­i­cal sites dat­ing back to the Abbasi era and even fur­ther back to the ear­li­est Islamic period. One of those was the Abbasi Caliph’s palace in as-Saqlawiyah, another the his­toric area 30km west of al-Fallujah in which the Bat­tle of Dhat al-‘Uyun was fought by the early Mus­lim war­riors under Khalid ibn al-Walid who lib­er­ated the coun­try from the Per­sian Empire. Amer­i­can forces also destroyed the ‘Anah Citadel and the Hit Citadel, as well as other centuries-old Islamic cites.

  18. Michael says:

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/07/28/hezbollah/index_np.html

    The “hid­ing among civil­ians” myth
    Israel claims it’s jus­ti­fied in bomb­ing civil­ians because Hezbol­lah min­gles with them. In fact, the mil­i­tant group doesn’t trust its civil­ians and stays as far away from them as possible.

    Through­out this now 16-day-old war, Israeli planes high above civil­ian areas make deci­sions on what to bomb. They send huge bombs capa­ble of killing things for hun­dreds of meters around those tar­gets to destroy them, and then blame the inevitable civil­ian deaths — the Lebanese gov­ern­ment says 600 civil­ians have been killed so far — on “ter­ror­ists” who cal­lously use the civil­ian infra­struc­ture for protection.

    But this claim is almost always false. My own report­ing and that of other jour­nal­ists reveals that in fact Hezbol­lah fight­ers — as opposed to the much more numer­ous Hezbol­lah polit­i­cal mem­bers, and the vastly more numer­ous Hezbol­lah sym­pa­thiz­ers — avoid civil­ians like the plague. Much smarter and bet­ter trained than the PLO and Hamas fight­ers, they know that if they min­gle with civil­ians, they will sooner or later be betrayed by col­lab­o­ra­tors — as so many Pales­tin­ian mil­i­tants have been.

  19. Robert Frost says:

    TAI: Down with George Bush, Down with all Zionistas..Down with neo-cons..Down with Amer­i­cans… Down with ras­cist USA..viva la resistance..

    Clicky

    title: ROP

    Udo allah snack­bars every Day

    Udo allah snack­bars down by the Bay

    Udo allah snack­bars cause you’re Gay

    Udo allah snack­bars So how many kaf­firs did you chop today

    Robert Frost

  20. Michael says:

    Sergeant Tells of Plot to Kill Iraqi Detainees

    July 28, 2006

    By ROBERT F. WORTH
    For more than a month after the killings, Sgt. Lemuel Lemus stuck to his story.

    Then, on June 15, Sergeant Lemus offered a new and much darker account.

    In a lengthy sworn state­ment, he said he had wit­nessed a delib­er­ate plot by his fel­low sol­diers to kill the three hand­cuffed Iraqis and a cover-up in which one sol­dier cut another to bol­ster their story

    As with sim­i­lar cases being inves­ti­gated in Iraq, Sergeant Lemus’s nar­ra­tive has raised ques­tions about the rules under which Amer­i­can troops oper­ate and the pos­si­ble cul­pa­bil­ity of com­man­ders. Four sol­diers have been charged with pre­med­i­tated mur­der in the case. Lawyers for two of them, who dis­pute Sergeant Lemus’s account,

    Many ques­tions remain about the case, which is sched­uled for an Arti­cle 32 hear­ing on Tues­day in Iraq. But what­ever the truth about that day, Sergeant Lemus’s sworn state­ment — which was obtained by The New York Times — pro­vides an extra­or­di­nary win­dow into the pres­sures Amer­i­can sol­diers face in Iraq, where wartime chaos and the imper­a­tive of loy­alty often com­pli­cate ques­tions of right and wrong.

    When inves­ti­ga­tors asked why he did not try to stop the other sol­diers from car­ry­ing out the killings, Sergeant Lemus — who has not been charged in the case — said sim­ply that he was afraid of being called a cow­ard

    The mis­sion that led to the killings started at dawn on May 9, when sol­diers with the Third Brigade Com­bat Team of the 101st Air­borne Divi­sion landed in a remote area near a for­mer chem­i­cal plant not far from Samarra, accord­ing to legal doc­u­ments and lawyers for the accused sol­diers. It was the site of a sus­pected insur­gent train­ing camp and was con­sid­ered extremely dangerous.

    , said Paul Bergrin and Michael Wadding­ton, the lawyers who are dis­put­ing Sergeant Lemus’s account. Mil­i­tary offi­cials in Bagh­dad have declined to com­ment on whether such an order, which would have been a vio­la­tion of the law of war, might have been given.

    The two lawyers say Colonel Steele has indi­cated that he will not tes­tify at the Arti­cle 32 hear­ing — the mil­i­tary equiv­a­lent of a grand jury hear­ing — or answer any ques­tions about the case. Calls and e-mail mes­sages to a civil­ian lawyer said to be rep­re­sent­ing Colonel Steele were not returned.

    It is very rare for any com­mand­ing offi­cer to refuse to tes­tify at any stage of a court-martial pro­ceed­ing, said Gary D. Solis, a for­mer mil­i­tary judge and pros­e­cu­tor who teaches the law of war at George­town University.


    Soon after­ward, Sergeant Lemus recounted, he was stand­ing near the land­ing zone when he heard shouts and bursts of gun­fire. He saw the detainees run­ning and then falling to the ground. He walked back to the scene and asked Sergeant Girouard what happened.

    Sergeant Girouard has been charged with pre­med­i­tated mur­der, a cap­i­tal offense, as have three other sol­diers: Spe­cial­ist William B. Hun­saker, Pfc. Corey R. Clagett and Spe­cial­ist Jus­ton R. Graber. Pri­vate Clagett and Spe­cial­ist Hun­saker are accused of actu­ally shoot­ing the prisoners.

    Mr. Bergrin, the lawyer who rep­re­sents Pri­vate Clagett, and Mr. Wadding­ton, who rep­re­sents Spe­cial­ist Hun­saker, dis­pute Sergeant Lemus’s account. They say the pris­on­ers broke free as two sol­diers were fix­ing the zip ties, which were com­ing loose. They say the pris­on­ers stabbed Spe­cial­ist Hun­saker and punched Pri­vate Clagett before try­ing to flee.

    But in his state­ment, Sergeant Lemus said he heard from the accused sol­diers that it was Sergeant Girouard who cut Spe­cial­ist Hun­saker in an effort to make the stab­bing story sound plau­si­ble.

    Two ini­tial inves­ti­ga­tions of the killings by com­man­ders found no wrong­do­ing. It is not clear who even­tu­ally came for­ward to tell com­man­ders that there was another ver­sion of what hap­pened on May 9.

    Sergeant Lemus said he laughed off the threat at the time. But there may have been other threats. In addi­tion to mur­der, the four accused sol­diers are charged with threat­en­ing to kill Pfc. Bradley L. Mason, one of the men in the squad, if he told what he knew about the shootings.

    Copy­right 2006 The New York Times Company

  21. Down with Amer­i­cans? No, I don’t think any­one wants that. Down with racist USA? No, who said the USA is racist? It is one of the best coun­tries in the world.

    But just like any coun­try in the world there are good and there are bad, and unfor­tu­nately you are a poor rep­re­sen­ta­tive of the beau­ti­ful things the US has to offer.

    I said YOU are racist. Do you believe your­self to speak in the name of 300 mil­lion Americans?

    So why do you men­tion Amer­i­cans when you speak your racist mind? Are you such a cow­ard that you need to hide behind the entire population?

    Do you for­bid 300 mil­lion Amer­i­cans their opin­ions by equat­ing your views with ALL of them?

    Very cheap. And an insult to Amer­ica. But racists like you can ONLY be an insult to all of humanity.

    Trust me, there are many Amer­i­cans who put you and your likes to shame. Fine, fine Amer­i­can peo­ple who have com­pas­sion and under­stand­ing in their hearts.

    There are even US sol­diers I have spo­ken with who have proven to be true humanitarians.

    Shame on you.

    Fur­ther­more, for every video you post, I can post thou­sands to shame you. So stop while you have some dig­nity left to squander.

  22. ISRAEL MASSACRES 55 MOSTLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN QENA!!! LATEST NEWS.

  23. At least 20 chil­dren are among more than 40 civil­ians killed after an Israeli raid destroyed a three-storey build­ing in the south­ern Lebanese town of Qana, Aljazeera’s cor­re­spon­dent reports.
    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/6334D333-E2A2-4F66-81E6-42FD108FD8BB.htm

    Lebanese media reported that dozens of peo­ple remain trapped inside the build­ing which was shel­ter­ing sev­eral fam­i­lies, some of whom had fled the Israeli bom­bard­ment of the Lebanese coastal town of Tyre

  24. A day ear­lier, war­planes struck out­side the mar­ket town of Nabatiyeh, crush­ing a house and killing a woman, her five chil­dren, and a man in a nearby house, Lebanese secu­rity offi­cials said. In the south­ern port city of Tyre, vol­un­teers buried 31 vic­tims of the bom­bard­ment in a mass grave, among them a 1-day-old girl.” (AP)

    Israel can’t fight armies or mili­tia. Only women and children.

  25. Charles says:

    I can post thou­sands to shame you.

    That would be inter­est­ing to see.

    On the one hand, you have mus­lims in free coun­tries chant­ing death and may­hem to peo­ple and coun­tries they don’t like. You have respected clergy and gov­ern­ment offi­cials on state/arab satel­lite TV doing basi­cally the same thing. They are not hid­ing it — they come right out and say ‘we want to kill you!’.

    And they don’t just say it. Car­toons can send fren­zied mobs into the streets across the entire world where loot­ing and burn­ing becomes the norm.

    But do peo­ple in the west express them­selves in a sim­i­lar way? TAI says he has thou­sands of videos.

    The ulti­mate evil demon Bush and his faith­ful side­kick Blair — do they spout such rhetoric? Or do we have mass demon­stra­tions chant­ing for the destruc­tion of muslims?

    Maybe we do but I just haven’t noticed?

    We do have our own rad­i­cal groups to be sure. Skin­heads hate basi­cally every­one. They prob­a­bly do chant­ing and maybe even dancing.

    But can some­one of sober mind really com­pare mus­lim mobs and offi­cial rhetoric with ‘west­ern’ mobs and offi­cial rhetoric?

    I think not.

    Wait­ing for west­ern mass protest videos so we can see the blood­thirsty Amer­i­cans scream­ing for the destruc­tion of muslims…

    TAI?

  26. Michael says:

    Or do we have mass demon­stra­tions chant­ing for the destruc­tion of muslims?

    Of course not Char lie, you are too busy actu­ally doing it.

  27. Haha­haha … Charles, your des­per­a­tion is show­ing again.

    Who the hell said “we want to kill you”? And who is “you”?

    Show me.

    Peo­ple who chant death to Israel do so because of Israel’s aggres­sion in the Mid­dle East.

    Peo­ple who chant death to Amer­ica do so because the US is sup­port­ing in every way Israel’s aggres­sion against other states.

    But that is in places like Pak­istan, Iraq (no sur­prise there, huh?), Yemen.

    And these protests are all allowed by the gov­ern­ments allied with the US to vent steam in the Mid­dle East and Asia. All of these peo­ple, every last one of them, would jump at the chance to move to the US because there is no free­dom of any­thing in their coun­tries. The US has seen to that.

    It is US for­eign pol­icy that is the cul­prit but you do not want to be told you are wrong on anything.

    Rice has shamed the US in the past three weeks. You should read the op-eds of Euro­pean news­pa­pers just for a start. Oh yeah, that;s “old Europe”, right?

    But yes, there is a daily call­ing for the killing, maim­ing and destruc­tion of all who stand up and say no. Not only Mus­lims and Arabs.

    It is just like Ann Coul­ter call­ing for the Nuk­ing of Mecca or other notable media per­son­al­i­ties say­ing for every Israeli killed 1000 Pales­tini­ans should be slaugh­tered (Hey remem­ber Joe Farrah).

    Or how about the incite­ment of Frank Gra­ham? Pat Robert­son who has called for the inva­sion of Venezuela and assas­si­na­tion of Chavez in addi­tion to call­ing Islam an evil religion?

    What do you do with evil espe­cially after Bushco referred to evil over and over and over again?

    You stomp it out. So what is Robert­son — a man of Christ (what a laff!!!!!!!!!!!!!) — sug­gest­ing hap­pen to Islam? Stomped out of course.

    I have yet to see one per­son come out on state/arab satel­lite tv and say I want to kill you.

    That would be recorded rant­i­ngs of the Zawahiri/Zarqawi/bin Laden freaks.

    But I have heard dozens say the Israelis should be fought for invad­ing and destroy­ing Lebanon, the US mil­i­tary for invad­ing Iraq, the Israeli army in Pales­tine. Inter­est­ing com­mon denom­i­na­tor. All three areas are occupied.

    And yes, there are no mobs in west­ern coun­tries because your edi­to­ri­al­ists, colum­nists, radio talk show hosts, tv per­son­al­i­ties, motion pic­tures do it for you.

    You don’t need mobs, it is in what you teach peo­ple every day in text­books, news­pa­pers, radio shows, even on Oprah. Breed­ing racism, Xeno­pho­bia, and Islam­o­pho­bia. Come on, Charles, are you seri­ous with your crap?

    Tsk, tsk. They couldn’t find any­one bet­ter than Charles to argue their rightwing neo­con drivel?

  28. Bob, can’t hack the truth, huh?

    Sure, have seen your likes before. Petty.

    Except for one thing. I am from the region. Where you from?

    I speak the lan­guage (along with a few oth­ers). What do you do? Go around call­ing peo­ple names?

    Very, very, very genuine.

    In the gallery of the weak-minded, you get quite a few nods.

  29. Charles says:

    TAI,

    I am quite sure that I have seen mobs of spit­tle drip­ping rad­i­cal mus­lims burn­ing and break­ing things over the last sev­eral decades. They blow things up and slit throats. They read­ily admit it and it is quite well doc­u­mented. Try­ing to deny it makes you look silly.

    I have NOT seen mobs of Chris­tians, Bud­dhists, etc. involved in sim­i­lar behav­ior. We could even take reli­gion out of it (since it has become just so passe in the west). I haven’t seen the local gar­den club or rotar­ian meet­ing end in effigy burning.

    Of course, when denial fails, you always have a solid trench­line of ‘excuses’ to retreat to. You are quite stud­ied up on that. Rather than con­sider the true sources of the prob­lem, you choose to blame others.

    In the mid­dle east, the cul­prit is easy. Its either the zion­ist illu­mi­nati of Israel who con­trol the US, or the evil US who con­trols Israel, etc. I’m not sure what the chant­ing mobs in Europe are all upset about, but its prob­a­bly some com­bi­na­tion of that nasty Israel/US for­mula. There couldn’t pos­si­bly be any other reason.

    Of course, these ‘form’ excuses lose their con­text if you move a bit fur­ther afield. When a bud­dhist school teacher gets gunned down by a mus­lim rad­i­cal in Thai­land, it does get harder to blame the US (not that you wouldn’t try of course — LB will muster up a CIA plot if nec­es­sary). When mus­lim rad­i­cals kid­nap and behead school girls in Indone­sia, you won­der if the thugs did it to sup­port glo­ri­ous pales­tine. India? What is going on here? Is it really the US and Israel behind all the world’s trou­ble spots? Or is there some­thing else?

    What is the com­mon denominator?

    I just can’t fig­ure it out. Let’s blame Israel!

    Here is my advice:

    Sit down and STFU. I mean, do what­ever you want — just don’t don’t cause trou­ble. Don’t hurt any­one. Don’t oppress any­one. Take care of that and you won’t have trou­bles. Believe me — that will keep you busy for a long time.

    The more trou­ble you make — the more things you break — will just increase the like­li­hood of start­ing war. When wars start lots of things get bro­ken and lots of peo­ple get hurt. If you directly attack us, you will def­i­nitely get a war. I don’t know who will win. You can pick a side and cheer all you want. Yipee.

    But if you make vio­lent threats, and pro­voke a vio­lent con­flict, don’t start whin­ing that its some­one else’s fault when chil­dren die.

    Most sane peo­ple will take threats seri­ously — espe­cially if the group mak­ing the threats has a his­tory of delivering.

  30. Sit down and STFU, says Charles.

    Charles are you too cow­ardly to spell out Shut The Fuck Up? I don’t get it. Are you afraid LB won’t under­stand what you mean by STFU?

    Do you think abbre­vi­at­ing it makes you look less of a cow­ardly racist war-mongering Islamophobe?

    You have really, really lost it. I never imag­ined that I would arrive at the moment where I find you lost all con­trol of your senses and just stand there rant­ing to yourself.

    My God, man, if no one else pities you can you not pity yourself?

    Again, Charles, again — this is what I said:

    You don’t need mobs, it is in what you teach peo­ple every day in text­books, news­pa­pers, radio shows, even on Oprah. Breed­ing racism, Xeno­pho­bia, and Islam­o­pho­bia. Come on, Charles, are you seri­ous with your crap?

    Mobs in the coun­tries I men­tioned protest because 1) their opin­ions and anger are dis­re­garded by their gov­ern­ments (save for Syria and Iran where demos are offi­cial); and 2) their opin­ions and anger run counter to the offi­cial gov­ern­ment line.

    Now, in your case, hatred, war­mon­ger­ing, Xeno­pho­bia and Islam­o­pho­bia is not only the offi­cial line but that of the media as wellwhich, unfor­tu­nately, is ter­ri­bly reg­u­lated now in the “free world”.

    You don’t get the com­mon denom­i­na­tor? Why occu­pa­tion, Charles.

    Occu­pa­tion. You know? As in the occu­pa­tion of Iraq. The occu­pa­tion of Pales­tin­ian ter­ri­to­ries? The occu­pa­tion of Lebanon?

    Lis­ten, since I know you likely care more for your dog than you do for other human beings of dif­fer­ent skin color and cul­ture, go tie your dog to a tree with a leather belt. Keep him tied for oh, I dunno, let’s say six years.

    Tell me what you get, k?

    Let us dis­sect your poor, poor attempt.

    You wrote:

    When a bud­dhist school teacher gets gunned down by a mus­lim rad­i­cal in Thai­land, it does get harder to blame the US (not that you wouldn’t try of course — LB will muster up a CIA plot if nec­es­sary). When mus­lim rad­i­cals kid­nap and behead school girls in Indone­sia, you won­der if the thugs did it to sup­port glo­ri­ous pales­tine. India? What is going on here? Is it really the US and Israel behind all the world’s trou­ble spots? Or is there some­thing else?

    When Tim McVeigh killed so many inno­cent peo­ple in Okla­homa, did the world go after every Chris­t­ian Amer­i­can of Scot­tish ancestry?

    When Baruch Gold­stein mowed down 28 wor­ship­pers dur­ing dawn prayers in Hebron was that an act of mercy? When Jew­ish set­tlers erected a mon­u­ment in his honor, call­ing him an hero, why did you not protest then, Charles? Hmmm?

    Tsk, tsk, yet again play­ing the hyp­ocrite. Charles, Charles. Are you really the best your peo­ple got?

    But if you make vio­lent threats, and pro­voke a vio­lent con­flict, don’t start whin­ing that its some­one else’s fault when chil­dren die.

    That is true of all peo­ple on this planet, right, Charles?

    Heh, from the mouths of babes.

    Keep your advice to your­self, Charles. Fix your home before you come and blab­ber your­self into insignif­i­cance at ours.

  31. Hey Charles, look at what your hero Steven Green says.

    I CAME OVER HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO KILL PEOPLEhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060730/ts_alt_afp/iraqusmilitaryprobe

    Writ­ing in Sunday’s edi­tions of The Wash­ing­ton Post, Andrew Tilgh­man, a for­mer cor­re­spon­dent for the US mil­i­tary news­pa­per Stars and Stripes, said he inter­viewed [Steven Green, a for­mer US sol­dier accused of rap­ing and mur­der­ing an Iraqi girl] sev­eral times in Feb­ru­ary at his unit south of Baghdad.

    I came over here because I wanted to kill peo­ple,” he quoted Green as say­ing. “The truth is, it wasn’t all I thought it was cracked up to be.

    I mean, I thought killing some­body would be this life-changing expe­ri­ence,” Green was quoted as say­ing. “And then I did it, and I was like, ‘All right, whatever.’

    I shot a guy who wouldn’t stop when we were out at a traf­fic check­point and it was like noth­ing,” Green was quoted as say­ing. “Over here, killing peo­ple is like squash­ing an ant.

    I mean, you kill some­body and it’s like, ‘All right, let’s go get some pizza.’”

    Like I said Charles, the offi­cial line, sup­ported by the media and now the US mil­i­tary is Islam­o­pho­bia and racism.

    Rape too.

    So why would you need mobs? This kind of stuff is blasted on your radio talk shows every sin­gle day.

    Heck, what was Hadji Girl? You know that song? Was it a Christ­mas Carol? A Han­nukah Prayer?

  32. Charles says:

    Keep try­ing TAI.

    Pick out exam­ples of crim­i­nals like McVeigh or Green and con­vince your­self that is the same thing.

    Why do you keep writ­ing that Green is my friend or my hero? If he is guilty as charged, he should receive the sever­est pun­ish­ment for his crimes. I’ve stated that sev­eral times so why do you keep repeat­ing that he is my ‘hero’?

    Mobs in the coun­tries I mentioned…

    What about the one’s you con­ve­niently failed to men­tion? What about the mobs who live in lib­eral west­ern countries?

    Why occu­pa­tion, Charles.

    You know per­fectly well that the vio­lence in Iraq is due to insur­gents and ter­ror­ists. Sad­dam is gone. The future is open. Iraqis are decid­ing each morn­ing what they want to do. For many of them, their plans obvi­ously have lit­tle to do with build­ing a pros­per­ous and demo­c­ra­tic coun­try. That is the prob­lem — not the fact that US troops are sta­tioned in coun­try sup­port­ing the elected government.

    Regard­ing Hezbol­lah, they have made it clear over sev­eral decades of offi­cial pol­icy and rhetoric that their goal is the destruc­tion of Israel. This gen­eral pol­icy is widely espoused. Do you think Israel should not take them seri­ously? They attacked Israel, and Israel is try­ing to elim­i­nate them. What a god damned surprise.

    Any­way, Hezbol­lah ‘occu­pies’ south­ern Lebanon and refused to cede nor­mal sov­er­eign con­trol to the elected gov­ern­ment. I guess the prob­lem isn’t the fact that arabs are ‘occu­pied’, its just they don’t like jews much. I sup­pose you could argue that any non-democratic coun­try is being ‘occu­pied’ since the peo­ple have not autho­rized the regime. The rest is just fluff. But when in doubt, blame the jews. Believe me, its a sure thing in the ME.

    Hamas? Israel pulled out of Gaza and is still being hit from Gaza. Noth­ing like a step in the right direc­tion — eh? As if the ‘pales­tini­ans’ just HAVE to fire that next vol­ley of rock­ets. What the hell are they thinking?

    go tie your dog to a tree with a leather belt

    Exactly! You have delib­er­ately tied the ‘Pales­tini­ans’ to a tree. They are stuck in their refugee camps for gen­er­a­tions. How can this pos­si­bly be jus­ti­fied? Why are there refugee camps in arab coun­tries? They have been there for longer now than the whole notion of ‘Pales­tine.’ You know per­fectly well that the nation of Pales­tine was fab­ri­cated in a very cal­cu­lat­ing man­ner specif­i­cally to weaken and even­tu­ally dis­place the state of Israel. This has been con­firmed by the peo­ple who cre­ated the hoax. And oh — what a hoax!

    Hadji Girl?

    Oh right — a soldier’s song about being ambushed is almost the same as the Pres­i­dent of Iran, and a huge host of other cler­ics and politi­cians around the mus­lim world who reg­u­larly call for the destruc­tion of Israel.

    Arab rep­re­sen­ta­tives reminded the UN, in 1947, that “Pales­tine was part of the province of Syria—the Arabs of Pales­tine were not inde­pen­dent in the sense of form­ing a sep­a­rate polit­i­cal entity.”

    Eight years after the estab­lish­ment of the State of Israel, in 1956, Ahmed Shukeiry, speak­ing for the so-called Pales­tin­ian government-in-exile, based in Gaza, told the UN Gen­eral Assem­bly: “It is com­mon knowl­edge that Pales­tine is noth­ing but South­ern Syria.” Nei­ther Ahmed Shukeiry nor any­one else sug­gested, dur­ing the 19 years, from 1948 to 1967, that Jor­dan occu­pied Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip (which was re-named “the West Bank”), that the 539,000 reg­is­tered Arab refugees con­sti­tuted a sep­a­rate “Pales­tin­ian” entity, enti­tled to self-determination—let alone a sep­a­rate state.

    There is no dif­fer­ence between Jor­da­ni­ans, Pales­tini­ans, Syr­i­ans and Lebanese. It is for polit­i­cal rea­sons only that we care­fully empha­size our Pales­tin­ian iden­tity, because it is in the national inter­est of the Arabs to encour­age the exis­tence of Pales­tini­ans against Zion­ism, the estab­lish­ment of a Pales­tin­ian state is a new expe­di­ent to con­tinue the fight against Zion­ism and for Arab unity.”

    My advice to STFU was meant fig­u­ra­tively TAI.

  33. Nah, Charles, you don’t mean any­thing fig­u­ra­tively. I know and every­one else here knows that if I had my back to you you would gladly deck me one from behind.

    And I meant it about you rap­ing LB if you had the chance.

    See, that’s how racists, thugs, bul­lies, Xeno­phobes and Islam­o­phobes gen­er­ally are.

    Mobs in west­ern coun­tries? Where? I just saw news of a demon­stra­tion in the UK. No mobs there. Also one in Toronto. Can’t recall any mobs there. Just pro­test­ers car­ry­ing plac­ards and pic­tures of what you did in Qana.

    Do you think all Pales­tini­ans live in refugee camps in the Arab World? Why in Iraq I had two Pales­tin­ian fam­i­lies live on my street alone.

    They had houses and cars and lived like the rest of us.

    But I digress. I came here to show you how Charles would raise his children.

    Here we go:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2xKURltqE

    I sug­gest you all watch it. Had this been Pales­tin­ian chil­dren, they would have had an Israeli tank over run them.

    Charles, McVeigh and Green are you. You, Charles. The crim­i­nal, rap­ing, pil­lag­ing mindset.

    Hold on. I am going to post what some of your heroes have been say­ing lately.