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		<title>By: Propaganda: Syria and Iraqi resistance - Roads to Iraq via MySpace News</title>
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		<title>By: Fake reports: The hunt of Izzat al-Duri :: from www.uruknet.info :: news from occupied Iraq - it</title>
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		<title>By: NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</title>
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		<dc:creator>NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alison: As we told in the connection of our related postings, we&#039;ve ourselves seen Naqshabandi video on strike against the U.S. (which is certainly genuine). 

Yesterday we read a Hamas statement (cf. our repostings) okaying Naqshabandi (the al-Douri group) as Sufi resistant mujahideen, which we now trust based on the their word (also refuting their previous statement on rejecting baath, which we mentioned earlier), so that you don&#039;t have to worry about us spreading any disinformation: we do not side specifically any armed resistance group, but -- according to the AMSI program -- all of them under one unified resistance front. This is the true victory strategy and the goal of the armed resistance, which we back up with all the possible means.

What comes to this, furthermore we want to be absolutely sure before making any commitment, since there are some de-baathified &quot;baathists&quot; in al-Anbar (of the calibre of al-Reesha, Ri.I.P.) working with the so-called al-Anbar Salvation (read: Slavation) council, equipped with sunni militia forces in collaboration with the U.S., a hideous cover front for the partition of Iraq, a threat indeed of these days, if any besides the al-Qaida infiltration situation, of course. For that reason we do not commit to any baath party or section that the Reform and JIhad and Change and Jihad Fronts have confirmed genuine. 

We have nothing against the Baath, well aware that there are a lot of former Baath members both in the Reform &amp; Jihad Front and Change &amp; Jihad Front, two groups that are very close to our hearts (ourselves seeing these formations not only defending Iraq, but the entire Human Kind against the evil plans of the United States and their associates, so that we fully side with them in everything and let these parties define our position in everything: there is nothing that we pray daily more than their success in forming a common resistance front: once that is done, everything else will be sorted out, so we concentrate on that as best as we can).

So, when you say (or shout) &quot;WHILE THE ARMED RESISTANCE IS HUGE AND CONSOLIDATED, THE POLITICAL FRONT IS STILL LACKING&quot;, this is nearly not the case: just a couple of days ago the Reform and Jihad Front announced a political front and yesterday we posted a related wire by Change and Reform Front asking for further information concerning this front and its attitudes. 

From this point of view the political front is only one step away from being born (namely the unification of the Reform and Jihad and Change and Jihad Fronts) 

What comes to our &quot;pretending&quot; to be too busy, we&#039;d like to point you out that we&#039;re reading a huge number of news wires daily, choosing the most important and reposting them besides of our other activities in our real lives so that we&#039;re truly so busy that we don&#039;t have to time to finnish our own reports but barely here and then.

So, instead of shouting (as we told we Finns are not impressed with emotional blackmailing) what you could do is that you -- obviously knowing this and that about the Baath -- e.g. made some investigations in who are the de-baathificated baathists plotting in the al-Anbar Slavation &amp; Partition council with the Americans, which would certainly be helpful in this situation more than anything else. With this sort of activities we could perhaps achieve something constructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alison: As we told in the connection of our related postings, we’ve ourselves seen Naqshabandi video on strike against the U.S. (which is certainly genuine). </p>
<p>Yesterday we read a Hamas statement (cf. our repostings) okaying Naqshabandi (the al-Douri group) as Sufi resistant mujahideen, which we now trust based on the their word (also refuting their previous statement on rejecting baath, which we mentioned earlier), so that you don’t have to worry about us spreading any disinformation: we do not side specifically any armed resistance group, but — according to the AMSI program — all of them under one unified resistance front. This is the true victory strategy and the goal of the armed resistance, which we back up with all the possible means.</p>
<p>What comes to this, furthermore we want to be absolutely sure before making any commitment, since there are some de-baathified “baathists” in al-Anbar (of the calibre of al-Reesha, Ri.I.P.) working with the so-called al-Anbar Salvation (read: Slavation) council, equipped with sunni militia forces in collaboration with the U.S., a hideous cover front for the partition of Iraq, a threat indeed of these days, if any besides the al-Qaida infiltration situation, of course. For that reason we do not commit to any baath party or section that the Reform and JIhad and Change and Jihad Fronts have confirmed genuine. </p>
<p>We have nothing against the Baath, well aware that there are a lot of former Baath members both in the Reform &amp; Jihad Front and Change &amp; Jihad Front, two groups that are very close to our hearts (ourselves seeing these formations not only defending Iraq, but the entire Human Kind against the evil plans of the United States and their associates, so that we fully side with them in everything and let these parties define our position in everything: there is nothing that we pray daily more than their success in forming a common resistance front: once that is done, everything else will be sorted out, so we concentrate on that as best as we can).</p>
<p>So, when you say (or shout) “WHILE THE ARMED RESISTANCE IS HUGE AND CONSOLIDATED, THE POLITICAL FRONT IS STILL LACKING”, this is nearly not the case: just a couple of days ago the Reform and Jihad Front announced a political front and yesterday we posted a related wire by Change and Reform Front asking for further information concerning this front and its attitudes. </p>
<p>From this point of view the political front is only one step away from being born (namely the unification of the Reform and Jihad and Change and Jihad Fronts) </p>
<p>What comes to our “pretending” to be too busy, we’d like to point you out that we’re reading a huge number of news wires daily, choosing the most important and reposting them besides of our other activities in our real lives so that we’re truly so busy that we don’t have to time to finnish our own reports but barely here and then.</p>
<p>So, instead of shouting (as we told we Finns are not impressed with emotional blackmailing) what you could do is that you — obviously knowing this and that about the Baath — e.g. made some investigations in who are the de-baathificated baathists plotting in the al-Anbar Slavation &amp; Partition council with the Americans, which would certainly be helpful in this situation more than anything else. With this sort of activities we could perhaps achieve something constructive.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems you cannot smell a rat even when it is perched on your own shoulder! You are so FULL OF MISCONCEPTIONS regarding the Ba’ath that I can only conclude that parties with a GRUDGE against the legitimate Iraq Ba’ath (the so-called ‘Saddam loyalists’) have been poisoning your mind and taking you for a ride by feeding you a stream of disinformation. </p>
<p>Goodness knows where all this GARBAGE about the so-called JORDANIAN (????!!!) Ba’ath is coming from!! Al-Douri is the General Secretary of the legitimate IRAQI Ba’ath Party, not the Jordanian Ba’ath. The notion that Izzat Ibrahim Al-Douri is in cahoots with Ayad Allawi is not only without foundation. It is so inherently implausible as to be frankly ludicrous!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article666433.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article666433.ece</a></p>
<p>As I already pointed out in a previous comment, Ba’athist units – drawn from an elite of the old Iraqi Army, the Republican Guards and other military organisations – are under the UNIFIED COMMAND OF THE MUJAHIDEEN ARMED FORCES, which used to co-ordinate all the other major Resistance factions as well.</p>
<p>A revealing snapshot of the state of play in early 2005 is provided by Iraqi Patriotic Alliance activist Sammi Alaa, who was interviewed in the fringes of the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fritirak.dk/artikler/english/articles/2005/0201-sa.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fritirak.dk/artikler/english/articles/2005/0201-sa.htm</a></p>
<p>I do not have the time to refute all your misconceptions one by one, and even if did, you would probably not believe me. That is why I referred you to SALAH AL-MUKHTAR, a former ambassador, a leading Ba’athist Resistance activist and a man of integrity. Do not pretend that you are too busy to contact him!!! You are not too busy to spread disinformation!!!</p>
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		<title>By: NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</title>
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		<dc:creator>NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re outstretched with all the reporting, reposting and commenting we&#039;re currently doing

&quot;YOU are the ones labouring under an extremely grave misapprehension regarding the role of the legitimate Iraqi Ba’ath Party&quot;

Once more, it is not us that is smearing here: we&#039;re just troubled about - to mention you some - the following facts:

§1. It&#039;s been known for long that the Baath party in question is not in a possession of Armed Resistance Formations (thus said e.g. by Ibrahim al-Shammari, the spokesman to IAI, whom we trust). As this is confirmed by the non-appearance of any significant numbers of Baath Armed Resistance videos, the Baath is not Armed.

§2. The appearance of the Baath front &quot;Jihad and Liberation&quot; with new never-heard-before formations coincidents with the timing in which the sole new military groups in formation are the U.S.-backed Sunni militia troops. As you remember from the discussion above, it was reported also that the al-Douri was working with the U.S. and so not resisting the attacks. If this is true, the Baath is no more armed than resistance either, a bad bad fault in any faction these days (as the Armed Resistance is the representative of the Iraqi people).

§3. Both the Reform and Jihad Front and the Change and Jihad front have excluded the Baath party - as well as ISI - from the new coalition, so that we -- accepting both fronts in question we define our position according to their guidance: Armed Resistance is the legal and legitimate representative of the Iraqi people, and if they say they exclude Baath, we&#039;ll certainly believe they&#039;ve sound reasons for doing so.

§4. As reported by Abu Muhammad al-Nasr (c/o al-Basrah), apparently the Baath party in question is not in friendly terms with the Reform and Jihad Front ,an attitude we find impossible to accept: RJF is the another front we gladly accept, not only because the solid fight they&#039;ve put forth, but also because they&#039;re backed by decent Iraqi Clerical Council (namely the Brigades of Ansar al-Sunna Sharia Council).

So, we&#039;re not smearing, but simply quoting sources and facts we find trustworthy.

We just discuss about the issue (we could do some posting on our site, but we haven&#039;t done that lately because we rather let the RJF and CJF to release their own attitudes rather than passing them by ourselves (this is also because their plans are often very intelligent and with more depth than you are able to recognize in the first look). 

We come out only after they&#039;ve done that themselves, and currently there&#039;s no strategic hurry whatsoever: 
§1. The U.S. forces achieved nothing militarily in the Diyala province (the al-Anbar Salvation scumbags), so that we rather concentrate on the Al-Qaida situation there.
§2. Though we have little hope left what comes to the al-Douri (and the Baath faction in question) we -- though we may be rather naïve in thinking so) still have some 1% of our hope towards al-Douri and the Baath left, if not because them, then because the Armed Resistance certainly has a proper plan to deal with the situation and so not to interrupt their plans we rather go on keeping low profile with this (as we&#039;re now doing here).

Perhaps we might get started if you replied to the following:

§1. Do you think RJF and CJF are hijackers plotting against the Baath party c/o Jordan (including IPA)? 

§2. Do you believe they both are puppeted by Syria (which in turn is supposedly puppeted by Iran)?

§3. Why you think Allawi would have been appointed as the ambassador of Jordan, if he&#039;s the one who&#039;s plotting with the Syrian Baath? Wouldn&#039;t it be quite difficult to meet Syrian-based Baath in Jordan while easy to meet Jordanian Baath in Jordan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re outstretched with all the reporting, reposting and commenting we’re currently doing</p>
<p>“YOU are the ones labouring under an extremely grave misapprehension regarding the role of the legitimate Iraqi Ba’ath Party”</p>
<p>Once more, it is not us that is smearing here: we’re just troubled about — to mention you some — the following facts:</p>
<p>§1. It’s been known for long that the Baath party in question is not in a possession of Armed Resistance Formations (thus said e.g. by Ibrahim al-Shammari, the spokesman to IAI, whom we trust). As this is confirmed by the non-appearance of any significant numbers of Baath Armed Resistance videos, the Baath is not Armed.</p>
<p>§2. The appearance of the Baath front “Jihad and Liberation” with new never-heard-before formations coincidents with the timing in which the sole new military groups in formation are the U.S.-backed Sunni militia troops. As you remember from the discussion above, it was reported also that the al-Douri was working with the U.S. and so not resisting the attacks. If this is true, the Baath is no more armed than resistance either, a bad bad fault in any faction these days (as the Armed Resistance is the representative of the Iraqi people).</p>
<p>§3. Both the Reform and Jihad Front and the Change and Jihad front have excluded the Baath party — as well as ISI — from the new coalition, so that we — accepting both fronts in question we define our position according to their guidance: Armed Resistance is the legal and legitimate representative of the Iraqi people, and if they say they exclude Baath, we’ll certainly believe they’ve sound reasons for doing so.</p>
<p>§4. As reported by Abu Muhammad al-Nasr (c/o al-Basrah), apparently the Baath party in question is not in friendly terms with the Reform and Jihad Front ‚an attitude we find impossible to accept: RJF is the another front we gladly accept, not only because the solid fight they’ve put forth, but also because they’re backed by decent Iraqi Clerical Council (namely the Brigades of Ansar al-Sunna Sharia Council).</p>
<p>So, we’re not smearing, but simply quoting sources and facts we find trustworthy.</p>
<p>We just discuss about the issue (we could do some posting on our site, but we haven’t done that lately because we rather let the RJF and CJF to release their own attitudes rather than passing them by ourselves (this is also because their plans are often very intelligent and with more depth than you are able to recognize in the first look). </p>
<p>We come out only after they’ve done that themselves, and currently there’s no strategic hurry whatsoever:<br />
§1. The U.S. forces achieved nothing militarily in the Diyala province (the al-Anbar Salvation scumbags), so that we rather concentrate on the Al-Qaida situation there.<br />
§2. Though we have little hope left what comes to the al-Douri (and the Baath faction in question) we — though we may be rather naïve in thinking so) still have some 1% of our hope towards al-Douri and the Baath left, if not because them, then because the Armed Resistance certainly has a proper plan to deal with the situation and so not to interrupt their plans we rather go on keeping low profile with this (as we’re now doing here).</p>
<p>Perhaps we might get started if you replied to the following:</p>
<p>§1. Do you think RJF and CJF are hijackers plotting against the Baath party c/o Jordan (including IPA)? </p>
<p>§2. Do you believe they both are puppeted by Syria (which in turn is supposedly puppeted by Iran)?</p>
<p>§3. Why you think Allawi would have been appointed as the ambassador of Jordan, if he’s the one who’s plotting with the Syrian Baath? Wouldn’t it be quite difficult to meet Syrian-based Baath in Jordan while easy to meet Jordanian Baath in Jordan?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2007/10/08/propaganda-syria-and-iraqi-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-69744</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To NDHF: I suggested that YOU contact Mr Salah Al-Mukhtar because YOU are the ones labouring under an extremely grave misapprehension regarding the role of the legitimate Iraqi  Ba’ath Party,  which spearheaded and nurtured the Iraqi National Resistance,  not me. The longer you go on repeating UGLY SMEARS,  the less inclined I am to believe that you are acting in good faith.  Your outrageous claims amount to nothing less than DEFAMATION.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To NDHF: I suggested that YOU contact Mr Salah Al-Mukhtar because YOU are the ones labouring under an extremely grave misapprehension regarding the role of the legitimate Iraqi  Ba’ath Party,  which spearheaded and nurtured the Iraqi National Resistance,  not me. The longer you go on repeating UGLY SMEARS,  the less inclined I am to believe that you are acting in good faith.  Your outrageous claims amount to nothing less than DEFAMATION.</p>
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		<title>By: NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</title>
		<link>http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2007/10/08/propaganda-syria-and-iraqi-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-69743</link>
		<dc:creator>NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re somewhat aware of the Jordanian Baath as well as those of Syria and Iraq, of course (the latter rather being former &quot;baathists&quot; now offering their services to the two main resistance fronts existing, the Reform and Jihad Front and the Change and Jihad Front).

&quot;the Resistance has become much more fragmented in the last couple of years. There have been concerted moves to isolate, sideline, discredit and divide the Iraqi Ba’ath, not to mention the catastrophic conspiracy against the Resistance by Arab intelligence services giving rise to the hideous ISI.&quot;
- To our knowledge the direction has been exactly the opposite, namely towards the unification. While we agree with the Arab intelligence agencies conspiracy giving rise to the hideous ISI, we remind you of the following:
§1. It was Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri (c/o Baath c/o Jordan) who worked with ISI from 2004 to 2007
§2. All the Armed resistance groups proper belong now either to the Reform and Jihad or Change and Jihad Fronts which have excluded both the groups mentioned in §1 from the Unified front for the Iraqi Resistance now in formation (which is usually done because of somebody&#039;s been familiarizing with the occupier).

We&#039;re very busy at the moment and actually not so much interested in al-Mukhtar? Why do not you write him (and other Baathists as well) so to inspire some discussion? It would be certainly good to sort this issue out properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re somewhat aware of the Jordanian Baath as well as those of Syria and Iraq, of course (the latter rather being former “baathists” now offering their services to the two main resistance fronts existing, the Reform and Jihad Front and the Change and Jihad Front).</p>
<p>“the Resistance has become much more fragmented in the last couple of years. There have been concerted moves to isolate, sideline, discredit and divide the Iraqi Ba’ath, not to mention the catastrophic conspiracy against the Resistance by Arab intelligence services giving rise to the hideous ISI.“<br />
– To our knowledge the direction has been exactly the opposite, namely towards the unification. While we agree with the Arab intelligence agencies conspiracy giving rise to the hideous ISI, we remind you of the following:<br />
§1. It was Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri (c/o Baath c/o Jordan) who worked with ISI from 2004 to 2007<br />
§2. All the Armed resistance groups proper belong now either to the Reform and Jihad or Change and Jihad Fronts which have excluded both the groups mentioned in §1 from the Unified front for the Iraqi Resistance now in formation (which is usually done because of somebody’s been familiarizing with the occupier).</p>
<p>We’re very busy at the moment and actually not so much interested in al-Mukhtar? Why do not you write him (and other Baathists as well) so to inspire some discussion? It would be certainly good to sort this issue out properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2007/10/08/propaganda-syria-and-iraqi-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-69742</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To NDHF: I find it difficult to follow your reasoning (outlined above). One thing I do know for certain is that you are committing serious and damaging errors with regard to the position and role of the legitimate IRAQI Ba’ath Party, whose previous Secretary General, martyred President Saddam Hussein,  engineered the Iraqi National Resistance,  the foundations of which were laid before the invasion, as described by former ambassador, Saddam confidante, Ba’ath thinker and indefatigable Resistance activist  Salah Al-Mukhtar among others.   </p>
<p></p>
<p><a href="http://comitesirak.free.fr/baath/baath-041031-eng.htm" rel="nofollow">http://comitesirak.free.fr/baath/baath-041031-eng.htm</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, the Resistance has become much more fragmented in the last couple of years. There have been concerted moves to isolate, sideline, discredit and divide the Iraqi Ba’ath, not to mention the catastrophic conspiracy against the Resistance by Arab intelligence services giving rise to the hideous ISI. Many of the factions that once co-operated harmoniously under the Ba’ath umbrella have struck out on their own. In doing so, they have ended up seeking help and guidance from parties that are far less trustworthy or committed to the liberation and independence of Iraq than the legitimate Iraqi Ba’ath.  </p>
<p>Former Ambassador Salah Al-Mukhtar has analysed these and other issues in depth in his many articles (in Arabic) on <a href="http://www.albasrah.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.albasrah.net</a>. His email address is easily accessible. Why don’t you contact him if you want to know more about what has really been going on behind the scenes? (He is in Germany at the moment, but will no doubt be back soon.)  </p>
<p>P.s. The Front established by the Arab Ba’ath Socialist Party, the IPA etc in 2005 was called the Patriotic, National &amp; Islamic Front. A number of its communiqués were circulated in translation.</p>
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		<title>By: NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</title>
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		<dc:creator>NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is the Thing is: today, al-Basrah published Iraqi Resistance Report containing a story:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.albasrah.net/en_articles_2007/1007/iraqiresistancereport_111007.htm" rel="nofollow">Six Iraqi Resistance groups form Political Council for the Iraqi Resistance</a></p>
<p>In a dispatch posted at 2:26pm Makkah time Thursday afternoon, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that six Iraqi Resistance organizations affiliated with the <b>Salafi Islamist current</b> and the <b>Muslim Brotherhood organization</b> have announced that they had forced the <b>Political Council for the Iraqi Resistance</b>.</p>
<p>Mafkarat al-Islam reported the organizations issued an appeal calling for the liberation of Iraq from the activity of the foreign occupiers on the path to complete independence.  The six groups in the new Political Council represent two of the five main blocs of forces that have been engaged in armed struggle against occupation in Iraq.</p>
<p><b></b><b>the Islamic Army, the Army of the Mujahideen, the Army of the Fatiheen, and the Shari‘ah Board of the Ansar as-Sunnah</b>. These organizations reflect a Sururi Salafi Islamist orientation.</p>
<p>The other two member organizations in the new Political Council are the <b>Hamas In Iraq Movement</b>, and the Islamic Front for Iraqi Resistance, (known by its Arabic acronym <b>Jami‘</b>).  These organizations have their roots in the Muslim Brotherhood movement.</p>
<p>Three major blocs engaged in armed struggle against the US occupation in Iraq that are not affiliated with the new Political Council are: <b>the Front for Jihad and Change</b>, an organization inspired by the <b>Association of Muslim Scholars of Iraq</b>; the <b>Supreme Command for the Jihad and Liberation, a newly formed umbrella organization of 22 Resistance groups that have chosen Baath Party leader ‘Izzat Ibrahim ad-Duri as their commander; and the so-called Islamic State of Iraq – the front organization for al-Qa‘idah</b>.</p>
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We reject the idea that the Reform and Jihad Front (+ Shari’a Council of Ansar al-Sunna) we’re not affiliated with the Change and Jihad Front (+ Association of Muslim Scholars in Iraq, AMSI).</p>
<p>Since Change and Jihad Front is out of question, the sole possible candidate for the party not affiliated with the Reform and Jihad Front is the Supreme Command for the Jihad and Liberation, a former al-Qaida associate Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri and the so-called Islamic State of Iraq. Which is precisely what we’re suggesting: that all the other fronts are to unite, except the two excluded by the Iraqi Armed Resistance groups in the guardian article we cited you earlier.</p>
<p>Thus, Muhammad Abu Nasr, a recognized good man is publishing in Al-Basrah, a recognized site a piece containing basically the very same thesis as we put forth.</p>
<p>We do not necessarily think al-Basrah and al-Moharer that have done indefinite services to the Iraqi Resistance are bad sites, but however want to rise discussion on this issue so that all the sites around would benefit from that.</p>
<p>In this sense we’re very thankful for you too.</p>
<p>Yours,</p>
<p>Ed. Louhi &amp; NDHF Staff</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To NDHF:  The Resistance formations which you mention are genuine - that is not in dispute. What is in dispute is the wisdom of accepting help and advice from the governments of Saudi Arabia and Turkey (etc), as reported in the Guardian!  

We both support the Iraqi Resistance wholeheartedly and most of your reporting has been very good. However, you have recently started latching onto some very DAMAGING DISINFORMATION regarding the genuine Iraqi Ba&#039;ath currently led by Izzat Ibrahim Al-Douri. The statements of the genuine Iraqi Ba&#039;ath are posted on Al-Moharer.net and Albasrah.net, bona fide Resistance websites, and signed by the Iraq Leadership. Iraq Culture and Information Bureau. So why do you keep harping on about the Jordanian Ba&#039;ath? The defamation of the genuine Iraqi Ba&#039;ath, which spearheaded  the Iraqi National Resistance and nurtured many of the groups you mention under the guidance of martyred President Saddam Hussein is something which I am simply not willing to tolerate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To NDHF:  The Resistance formations which you mention are genuine — that is not in dispute. What is in dispute is the wisdom of accepting help and advice from the governments of Saudi Arabia and Turkey (etc), as reported in the Guardian!  </p>
<p>We both support the Iraqi Resistance wholeheartedly and most of your reporting has been very good. However, you have recently started latching onto some very DAMAGING DISINFORMATION regarding the genuine Iraqi Ba’ath currently led by Izzat Ibrahim Al-Douri. The statements of the genuine Iraqi Ba’ath are posted on Al-Moharer.net and Albasrah.net, bona fide Resistance websites, and signed by the Iraq Leadership. Iraq Culture and Information Bureau. So why do you keep harping on about the Jordanian Ba’ath? The defamation of the genuine Iraqi Ba’ath, which spearheaded  the Iraqi National Resistance and nurtured many of the groups you mention under the guidance of martyred President Saddam Hussein is something which I am simply not willing to tolerate!</p>
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