Ba’ath Party statement about Istanbul Conference

Posted on November 6, 2007 by Sappho

- Arab Ba’ath Party state­ment about Istan­bul Con­fer­ence and the threats on Iraq’s north­ern borders

…The eth­nic and sec­tar­ian ambi­tions of the two Kur­dish par­ties are behind esca­la­tion of the PKK activ­i­ties on the Kur­dish bor­ders.….
.…The con­fer­ence shows the fragility of Maliki’s gov­ern­ment, and his readi­ness to be used as a tool by the Amer­i­cans to gain some sup­port that pre­vent the crash and the fall under the strikes of Iraqi resis­tance heroes.…

- Two days ago I read very brief news about some kind of “behind closed doors” rec­on­cil­i­a­tion con­fer­ence in Jor­dan by the “Dead Sea” but today there are more details:

It was an Amer­i­can spon­sored con­fer­ence between par­lia­men­tary mem­bers and Iraqi oppo­si­tion and it will be fol­lowed by another con­fer­ence in Beirut later and in Rome.

Inter­est­ing is that rep­re­sen­ta­tives of Iraqi resis­tance groups were in the con­fer­ence [no names or groups were men­tioned]

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  2. Alison says:
    November 7, 2007 at 10:17

    We can sup­ply the names of the ‘Resis­tance’ groups par­tic­i­pat­ing in these US spon­sored ‘rec­on­cil­i­a­tion’ con­fer­ences our­selves, Ladybird.

    The so-called Polit­i­cal Coun­cil for the Iraqi Resis­tance (incor­po­rat­ing the ‘Jihad and Reform Front’ etc), has already been endorsed by an impres­sive array of noto­ri­ous col­lab­o­ra­tors, start­ing with pup­pet vice-president Tariq Al-Hashemi of the Iraqi Islamic Party.

  4. NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND says:
    November 8, 2007 at 17:08

    For those inter­ested in the recent nego­ti­a­tion busi­ness, check out our most recent repost­ings con­cern­ing that (start­ing down from “TOP NEWS: Who Pos­sesses The Right of Negotiation”).

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  6. Meryem says:
    November 8, 2007 at 23:21

    @NDHF edi­tors: Nomen est omen: Yes indeed, you have proved to be crea­tures of TheUnited$tatesofMonsters
    The AMSI should have taught you the basics of Islamic eti­quette ethics and man­ner:
    AHLAK
    What was your inten­tion by using the pic­tures of this repug­nant crea­tures in rela­tion with the Knights of Iraq and the Jihad and Lib­er­a­tion Front. Don’t you trust any­more in the power of your demago­cic rhetorics? Shame and dis­hon­our to you! I don’t believe that the AMSI would have approved such dis­taste­ful pro­pa­ganda tar­get­ing fel­low believers.

    Remem­ber that the Knights of Iraq wel­comed their prospec­tive mar­tyr­dom while shout­ing “Long live Iraq! Long live the Arab Nation, the Iraqi Army and Pales­tine!” They thanked Allah for accord­ing them this hon­ourable end. They took a stand which any human being could be proud of.

    Dis­ci­ples of Josef Goebbels! Devote wor­ship­pers of your mas­ters in the U$A, Israel and Iran.
    You all have the sacred blood of Iraq’s Hero, Mar­tyr Pres­i­dent Sad­dam Hus­sein on your hands. TRAITORS!
    The wedges you have cre­ated by spread­ing vil­lain­ous lies are deep but you should know that the dark forces of the uni­verse like YOU will never be able to destroy the TRUTH.

    Brave fight­ers in the cause of Allah! Remain firm in the path of right­eous­ness, hon­esty, sin­cer­ity and the Unity of Allah. Let that Unity enter into every vein and fibre of your being and con­tinue the glo­ri­ous task of Resis­tance; if nec­es­sary con­tinue it into the next gen­er­a­tion, until this build­ing the FREE IRAQ reaches its com­ple­tion.
    Sons and daugh­ters of Iraq! Denounce the trai­tors! UNITE in the Resis­tance and ful­fill the pre­cious legacy of the Guardian Mar­tyr of Iraq, Pres­i­dent Sad­dam Hussein!

    49: 11. Surely, all believ­ers are broth­ers. So make peace between your broth­ers, and fear ALLAH that mercy may be shown to you.

  7. Furat Al-Samaraie says:
    November 9, 2007 at 00:28

    Meryem– why don’t you just make a new reli­gion, one where you can pray to Saddam ?

    Then you can visit his sewer in pilgrimage…

  8. NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND says:
    November 9, 2007 at 16:06

    Meryem, it is not our fault that some­body opts to side with the enemy.

    It is how­ever our duty as mem­bers of the Iraqi Resis­tance to pro­tect our armed forces, the true Iraqi Army, the Lib­er­a­tion Front, the hope of Iraq and the world as well.

    We’re adamant in our attitude.

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  11. Furat Al-Samaraie says:
    November 13, 2007 at 15:52

    LOL@ NDHF being mem­bers fo the resistance.

    Did you join this resis­tance before or after the end of the baath occupation?

  12. NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND says:
    November 13, 2007 at 23:57

    Dis­miss Furat:.

    Here’s an email exchange con­cern­ing the NDHF position:

    §1. —– Orig­i­nal Mes­sage —–
    From: “Meryem XXXXXXX“
    To:
    Sent: Sun­day, Novem­ber 11, 2007 2:27 PM
    Sub­ject: admin­hey: Unite in the Resistance

    > This is an enquiry e-mail via http://heyetnet.org/en from:
    > Meryem Reis <meryemXXXXXXX“
    >
    > In the name of Allah, the Com­pas­sion­ate the Mer­ci­ful
    >
    > Assalamu aleikum wa rah­mat­ul­lahi wa barakatuhu,
    >
    > My greet­ings to you from Ger­many. First of all let me express my sin­cere
    > thanks for all your efforts and your com­mit­ment to end the occu­pa­tion and
    > to free your home­land.
    >
    > Thanks to your highly pro­fes­sional and valu­able web page also read­ers in
    > the West have got the oppor­tu­nity to obtain reli­able infor­ma­tion about
    > Iraq and the herioc strug­gle of the most hon­ourable Iraqi Resis­tance.
    >
    > I don’t want to bore you by enter­ing into the ongo­ing polemics caused by
    > the provoca­tive atti­tude of NDHF, a web page based in Finn­land pos­ing as
    > par­ti­san of the AMSI. — I have read your offi­cial state­ment regard­ing
    > this ques­tion a few weeks ago.
    >
    > How­ever, I am very con­cerned about NDHF’s recent arti­cles related with the
    > alleged “nego­ci­a­tions” of the Arab Social­ist Ba’ath Party (Iraq
    > Lead­er­ship). As a fre­quent reader of your web page, I very much appre­ci­ate
    > the qual­ity of your arti­cles and state­ments as to your jour­nal­ist
    > pro­fes­sion­al­ism and high eth­i­cal prin­ci­ples.
    >
    > NDHF edi­tors have gone too far by accus­ing the Arab Social­ist Ba’ath Party
    > (Iraq Lead­er­ship) of such nefar­i­ous activ­i­ties like “col­lab­o­ra­tion with
    > the occu­pa­tion forces” using offend­ing atributes like “phoney resis­tance“
    > and pub­lish­ing a very repug­nant pho­to­graph show­ing four monster-like
    > phan­tasy crea­tures with an unam­bigous ref­er­ence to the “Knights of Iraq“
    > (Jihad and Lib­er­a­tion Front).
    >
    > http://theunitedstatesofmonsters.blogspot.com/2007/11/on-knights-of-brigades-of-jihad-in-land.html
    >
    > If the fol­low­ing NDHF state­ment is cor­rect say­ing that:
    >
    > §1. “Our mod­est team was recently adopted by the Asso­ci­a­tion of Mus­lim
    > Schol­ars in Iraq (AMSI) as a “Iraqi Resis­tance fac­tion”, a hon­our we after
    > an extremely short con­sid­er­a­tion accepted more than gladly, hav­ing thus
    > become mem­bers of the hon­ourable Iraqi Resis­tance from 1th Novem­ber
    > 2007″.…
    >
    > So the respon­s­able con­tact per­son of the AMSI should teach NDHF edi­tors
    > the basics of Islamic eti­quette, ethics and man­ners.
    >
    > I strongly believe that the pub­li­ca­tion of such dia­tribes is not at all in
    > the sense of a highly pres­ti­gious reli­gious organ­i­sa­tion like the
    > Asso­ci­a­tion of Mus­lim Schol­ars in Iraq. I have never heard that the AMSI
    > was lev­el­ling accu­sa­tions against the Jihad and Lib­er­a­tion Front and the
    > Arab Ba’ath Social­ist Party (Iraq Leader­hip).
    > Even though we may have dif­fer­ent polit­i­cal opin­ions there is no more
    > time for ide­o­log­i­cal dis­putes. The only solu­tion to reach the lib­er­a­tion
    > of Iraq is the UNITED armed resis­tance. The resis­tance under all its flags
    > and titles is one move­ment!
    >
    > I am deeply con­cerned that obvi­ously some dark forces col­lab­o­rat­ing with
    > the occu­piers are try­ing to cre­ate a wedge between the ven­er­a­ble fac­tions
    > of the Iraqi resis­tance by spread­ing vil­lain­ous dis­in­for­ma­tion. In this
    > con­text I would very much appre­ci­ate to read your state­ment as to the
    > AMSI’s atti­tude regard­ing the Jihad and Lib­er­a­tion Front.
    >
    > Brave fight­ers in the cause of Allah, remain firm in the path of
    > right­eous­ness, hon­esty, sin­cer­ity and the Unity of Allah. Let that Unity
    > enter into every vein and fibre of your being and con­tinue the glo­ri­ous
    > task of Resis­tance; if nec­es­sary con­tinue it into the next gen­er­a­tion,
    > until this build­ing the FREE IRAQ reaches its com­ple­tion. God will­ing!
    >
    > 49: 11. Surely, all believ­ers are broth­ers. So make peace between your
    > broth­ers, and fear Allah that mercy may be shown to you.
    >
    > Praise be to Allah, peace and prayer to the prophet of Allah, His fam­ily
    > and His com­pan­ions.
    >
    > I request you to accept the expres­sion of my most sin­cere sen­ti­ments of
    > high respect and esteem.
    >
    > May peace be upon you!
    >
    > Meryem XXXXXX
    > meryemXXXXXXX” <meryemXXXXX@YYYYYYYY

    §2. Here’s a reply to that:

    AMSI PRESS DEPARTMENT to meryemXXXXXX show details Nov 12 (1 day ago)

    Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah

    Dear Sis­ter,

    First of thanks a lot for your kind warn­ings and advices.

    We –as AMSI– always think what you have writ­ten about it. We are agree with you % 100 on the Iraqi issues, the neces­sity of the unity.

    About NDHF we are in con­tact with them. However,neither they rep­re­sent us nor they are any part of our association.

    As you are righty pointed out that AMSI’s pol­icy, direc­tion and activ­i­ties are being pub­lished at our web pages in Ara­bic, Eng­lish and Turk­ish. So these are the ref­er­ence and orig­i­nal opin­ion of AMSI. the other news, com­ments and analy­sis can be taken from our web page, to add and say that we are a part of AMSI and etc is very wrong and does not reflect the reality.

    We will write to NDHF team about this issue. As far as we know they are vol­un­teerly work­ing for the cause of Iraq while doing some mis­takes owing to not hav­ing suf­fi­cient infor­ma­tion. In addi­tion, we believe that if you sent your advices, analy­sis and news about Iraq to them, we are sure that they will cor­rect the mis­takes and thank to you.Because we wrote them and saw that they are really open minded, activist and not fanatic people.

    AMSI never says or acts against Iraqis who­ever they are, against any group,sect or per­son. Owing to be mus­lim it is oblig­a­tion to do so.

    At last we are very thank­ful to you for your kind e-mail and prays.

    We will be look­ing for your e-mails.

    Sin­cerely yours.

    Fi amanil­lah

    AMSI Press Department

    3. And here’s the NHDF Response to that:

    Edi­tor Louhi to AMSI

    show details Nov 12 (1 day ago)

    Reply

    Dear AMSI

    Thank you for info ;)

    We are delighted of your trans­parency in this as well as every issue, just as we are: it makes coop­er­a­tion easy and main­tains the mutual trust which we appre­ci­ate a lot ;)

    Just a cou­ple of com­ments to Meryem Reis email:

    “Web page based in Finn­land pos­ing as par­ti­san of the AMSI (…)“
    – As you know from our reports and ref­er­ences to the now pretty heated Baath dis­cus­sion, we ‘ve never claimed (nor will we) any mem­ber­ship of AMSI, should that not be the case in some (cur­rently) dis­tant future ;)

    What comes to your email quote

    “to add and say that we are a part of AMSI and etc is very wrong and does not reflect the real­ity“
    – We fully and sin­cerely agree!!!

    And, of course, we agree, because never hav­ing said any­thing alike. A pas­sage pos­si­bly mis­in­ter­preted by Meryem says:

    “Our mod­est team was recently adopted by the Asso­ci­a­tion of Mus­lim Schol­ars in Iraq (AMSI) as a “Iraqi Resis­tance fac­tion”, a hon­our we after an extremely short con­sid­er­a­tion accepted more than gladly, hav­ing thus become mem­bers of the hon­ourable Iraqi Resis­tance from 1th Novem­ber 2007″.…

    - This we said indeed, because this is based to your pre­vi­ous email (On 31th Octo­ber) writing:

    You are another resis­tance fac­tion from the Iraqi Resis­tance who are doing the best work in the world against the oppres­sors and occupiers!

    We inter­preted this as a sort of autho­riza­tion for AMSI accept­ing NDHF as an Iraqi Resis­tance fac­tion. Noth­ing of AMSI mem­ber­ship has been said by us above, nor will, as we are not Mus­lim Schol­ars, nor based in Iraq, so that such a claim would be non­sen­si­cal from the part of NDHF. To this we’d like to add that in these cir­cum­stances we see many advan­tages in the NDHF not being any part of AMSI, this allow­ing us to oper­ate “unof­fi­cially” and — in the process — to say many things that would be far more com­pli­cated should we be mem­bers, as you read­ily under­stand as well ;)

    Just as Ali­son before, now this Meryem has this idea of NDHF claim­ing AMSI mem­ber­ship. We keep won­der­ing how the peo­ple get such ideas though we never say any­thing of the sort.

    Be that as it may, should we have erred, we read­ily apol­o­gize and ask you to point out any mis­takes done by us: our friend­ship to AMSI, Iraqi Resis­tance and the Iraqi peo­ple is of per­ma­nent nature so that our atti­tudes won’t be changed by crit­i­cism of our posi­tion (we’re very aware that as non-Iraqis we’re not fully informed and mak­ing mis­takes, this being the rea­son our always ask­ing your advise after any major report of ours so to secure that we won’t be harm­ing the Iraqi Resis­tance or the Iraqi Peo­ple, our most valu­able asset in this war).

    Finally, thank you for your kind email, it’s really great hear from you

    Stay alive,

    Edi­tor Louhi (on the behalf of the entire NDHF team)

    p.s. You’re always wel­come to improve our content.

    —–

    Finally, what comes to all this, we’d like to point out that:

    §1. WE ARE NOT AND DO NOT CLAIM TO BE MEMBERS OF the ASSOCIATION of MUSLIM SCHOLARS in IRAQ (AMSI). We are not mus­lim schol­ars and not based in Iraq (but Fin­land).
    §2. We’re only mem­bers of polit­i­cal Iraqi Resis­tance, not an armed wing of the resis­tance to which we have no direct rela­tion­ships.
    §3. Finally, we are ordi­nary Finns not mas­ter­ing Ara­bic, not belong­ing to any sect in Iraq (or any­where nearby) so that we are fully non-sectarian what comes to our atti­tudes. This comes with the defect that we do not pos­sess any inside infor­ma­tion, so we derive our analy­sis pieces from the sources avail­able to all using “proof by induc­tion” rang­ing over our news sto­ries so that all the claims we have obtained so far rep­re­sent only the knowl­edge we’ve gained so far (this neatly put by AMSI as “they are vol­un­teerly work­ing for the cause of Iraq while doing some mis­takes owing to not hav­ing suf­fi­cient infor­ma­tion”): if NDHF is proven wrong, we’ll cor­rect our mis­take in the fol­low­ing report­ing (this because when you use induc­tion you can­not stick with false premises, oth­er­wise deriv­ing false con­clu­sions from these). In this sense we’re independent.

    We’re sorry for this mess, but always in such a hurry with all the repost­ing, report­ing, analy­sis and com­ment­ing we haven’t had time to pub­lish a decent site state­ment in which all this belongs.

    We apol­o­gize and try to fix this as soon as we’ve fin­ished with a cou­ple of major reports that sud­denly became far more exten­sive than I expected (I have to put together three sep­a­rate reports on two top­ics, then dis­cuss them throughly with the Analy­sis Team guys, which will take some time).

    Thank you and sorry for tak­ing your time with this off-topic

    Edi­tor Louhi + NDHF eds

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