Islamtoday interviewed Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Guide [or Chief] Mahdi Akif, there were two interesting questions and answers:
Q: What is your response to the rumors about the group is controlled by businessmen who control the decision-making of the group?
A: I do not respond to such nonsense, and people has nothing to do only talk about these accusations, and I am a realistic man, I say: We are the Muslim Brotherhood group and our principles rooted in Egyptian society, they are clear, crystal clear … our men and women are members in the parliament, but the real Brotherhood exist in the Egyptian street.
Q: Why the Brotherhood do not call Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, to stop violent acts that distort the image of Islam, and to review their approach to the service of Islam and Muslims?
A: We do not issue calls to anyone; Because we believe that the “Bin Laden”, the entire Al-Qaeda, is American-made from the start till the end, and there is nothing called Al Qaeda, the Americans have goals (implementing them) under the threats of Al Qaeda, “bin Laden”, which are all false.
@Newsdesk Helsinki Finland. I have nothing to say to you, and you have nothing to say that I want to hear. Only one thing: You wrote: “What comes to me (Editor Louhi) and Paola (Pisi, Uruknet), we’ve been old friends and go long back…” . THIS IS FALSE. i don’t even know your real name. The truth is that when you worked at iraqwar.ru website, you kindly offered to put a few articles on uruknet–
Then you disappeared for years and i even forgot your existence. You emailed me again a few months ago, first asking me to post two articles of yours on Depleted Uranium (that i published), then trying to force me to post your articles about Iraq (that i didn’t publish). Some weeks ago I enjoined you not to email me anymore, just because you were accusing people without the slightest evidence and offending the memory of the assassinated Iraqi President and the Iraqi martyrs. And, as you well know, this account of the facts is very euphemistic.
By the way, since i have nothing to hide, Paola Pisi is my real name. So I suppose that “Editor” is your first name and “Louhi” your family name.
Of course I post the AMSI statements and pieces, and i hold the AMSI in high estimation, but the AMSI has nothing to do with you. By pretending that the AMSI agrees with you, you are slandering the AMSI too.
And I am not in need of your support against “Barabie“‘s crazy accusations. But I must say that probably even the poor drunk Barabie is better than you are. At least, she is only a clinical case.
Mitica Prof. Pisi !!!!!!!!!! :-)
@NDHF:
If there is someone here who is (ab)using the President’s memory, capitalizing on his popularity, distorting his message, putting in his mouth now that he is dead words which he never uttered while alive, in the desperate attempt to give some kind of “moral legitimation” to a phony liberation struggle, in truth covert collaborationism, this is YOU.
Saddam Hussein NEVER repudiated the Baath Party to “turn to favor the Holy Jihad” as you claimed, simply because the Baath IS ITSELF a Jihadi movement — in the pure, free, enlightened, Arab humanist, Islamic Renaissance meaning of the word “Jihad”, certainly not in the lunatic-asylum millenarianistic one as intended by the Frankensteins issued from the laboratories of Zbgniew Brzezinski & Co.
There is NO contradiction between Baath and Islam, you bunch of decaying and stinking theocratic carcasses, and the President Martyr of Iraq knew it and was, throughout his life and until his last breath, a true Baathist AND a true Muslim, and above all, a true HUMAN BEING.
So by insisting on waging this shameful, vile and cruel defamation campaign against the Party he believed in, you are IMPLICITLY insulting his figure, ridiculing his feelings, ideals and values, cheapening his cause, which was, is, and WILL BE that of millions of Iraqis, educated, self-aware, worldly-wise, enlightened, progressive Iraqis who want a post-liberation SECULAR society that preserves the individual spirituality UNSULLIED from the filth of sectarianism, bigotry and corruption.
As for the little PARANOIAC, PERSECUTION-MANIACAL (Zionist Jewish-style) “trick” you played on the members of this forum:
Hereby I the undersigned beat my chest in repentance and admit the horrendous truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth: I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT MANNERHEIM (WHOEVER HE WAS) NOR ABOUT FINLAND.
Now that you have my written confession, you should have the decency and humility to be as much honest and confess, too, your truth: that YOU HATE SADDAM HUSSEIN, THE BAATH PARTY AND THE IRAQI PEOPLE, WORK FOR THE OCCUPATION AND ONLY POSE AS SUPPORTERS OF THE NOBLE AMSI AND THE HEROIC IRAQI RESISTANCE FOR STRATEGIC PURPOSES.
But then you are neither decent nor humble and, as for honesty, you don’t even know what it means.
My worst DISregards — and, God willing, farewell FOR GOOD.
Tariq
@Tariq:
Leave the pile of dogshit called NDHF alone; if not stirred, it stinks less :-)
Keep up the good fight.
Salam.
Various:
§1. @ Tariq, on: “Saddam Hussein NEVER repudiated the Baath Party to “turn to favor the Holy Jihad” as you claimed”.
– I never said anything about repudiating Baath.
I referred to the very words of the Mujahid brother Hussein in his hand-written “testament” saying:
“This is by the will of the Living Eternal God, and by His agents on earth, the heroic Mujahideen in glorious, virtuous, militant, jihadist Iraq. So God bless the heroic people of Iraq and God bless the jihad and the mujahideen.“
http://uruknet.info/?p=m24800
There’s lot more of the sort in the brilliant analysis piece relinked above which the NDHF crew recommends to all wanting to know the truth about the Mujahid brother Saddam Hussein.
Typical “Tariq” to pose as if a Saddam loyalist and then proceed with twisting the very words and ideas of Mujahid Brother Hussein.
What comes to the Baath, is also noteworthy that though we repeatedly make the same point that any discussion about Baath is nonsensical before committing either to the pro-U.S. or anti-U.S. branch of the Baath party, nothing of the sort emerges from the pseudo-Baathists swarming at this discussion, this obviously hinting to the true belongings of the pro-U.S. baath party hijackers
§2. Paola Pisi
(a) On: “the AMSI has nothing to do with you.“
– Rubbish. AMSI’s a dear friend.
There’s this tendency of people emailing AMSI whining about NDHF and publicly lying . Because of this we’re able to prove that we do not lie. We’ve already dealt with this issue on the comment sections of the articles to which we’ve attached a couple of such emails from AMSI:
Ba’ath Party statement about Istanbul Conference
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2007/11/06/ba%e2%80%99ath-party-statement-about-istanbul-conference/
Ba’ath party 13th conference: New resistance alliance front and statement about dividing Iraq
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2007/10/04/baath-party-13th-conference-new-resistance-alliance-front-and-statement-about-dividing-iraq/
What comes to the relation of AMSI and NDHF, much more important than any emails is that generally the AMSI and NDHF as a rule share common strategic analysis of the “big picture” about the war. Thus, for example, at the beginning of this Autumn NDHF delivered a general analysis of the U.S.-Iranian-Israeli war plot (the Iraq Study Group plan) which was reposted by AMSI:
U.S. Defeat and Iraq Study Group “Withdrawal” Plot
http://heyetnet.org/en/content/view/1849/27/
Soon after it was further translated into Arabic by AMSI and published as well as you can verify here:
هيئة علماء المسلمين في العراق » الاخبار » أخبار العراق » الخريطة الجديدة للعراق في ظل
الاحتلال الامريكي وحكوماته المتعاونة معه
الخريطة الجديدة للعراق في ظل الاحتلال الامريكي وحكوماته المتعاونة معه
29 /09 /2007 م 10:50 صباحا
http://theunitedstatesofmonsters.blogspot.com/search?q=%22U.S.+Defeat+and+Iraq+Study+Group+%22Withdrawal%22+Plot%22
Generally speaking, the AMSI and NDHF reporting coincide both with their contents and the timing, most recently seen e.g. here:
Some time ago NDHF chose to come out with the truth about Al-Qaida being an U.S. phony organization as reported here:
IRAQ: On Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaida in Iraq
http://theunitedstatesofmonsters.blogspot.com/2007/11/iraq-on-osama-bin-laden-and-al-qaida-in.html
Our Analysis Team was not caught by surprise noting that within 7 days of our reposting the AMSI has chosen to come out with identical view, as reported here:
AMSI: Al-Qaeda is an American creation
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2007/11/21/amsi-al-qaeda-is-an-american-creation/
These developments are ultimately related to the recent AMSI raid, for which see our preliminary notice of us coming out with Al-Qaida-Osama-bin-Laden reporting here:
On the AMSI HQ Raid and al-Qaida connection accusations
http://theunitedstatesofmonsters.blogspot.com/2007/11/on-amsi-hq-raid-and-al-qaida-connection_15.html
(b) “By pretending that the AMSI agrees with you, you are slandering the AMSI too.“
– Deliberate or not, this is disinformation. AMSI being the best-informed party concerning the Iraq war and other issues related to that, it is not AMSI agreeing with NDHF, but NDHF agreeing with AMSI. What comes to this, we are from far-away Finland and so, as AMSI put it in their email quoted above:
“As far as we know they are volunteerly working for the cause of Iraq while doing some mistakes owing to not having sufficient information.”
In this sense the NDHF views are not necessarily identical with those of AMSI, especially when the AMSI view is unknown to us (as e.g. the AMSI view of Al-Qaida was before we read that being identical with ours as well from the Roads to Iraq article above).
§3. @ Victoria:
(a) On: “ITModerator” of the now-closed patriotic Iraqi website IraqTunnel and “Al-Firdaws” of the still working anti-imperialist website Iraq-War, who had both started their not-so brilliant “ideological hacker’s” careers by gaining the trust of the two unaware women administrators, IRAdmin and Zoraida
– Everything concerning this is unknown to us except that Zoraida’s been doing excellent job recently, showing that whatever’s been there is over: currently she’s certainly not “unaware”, so dismiss the comment for that part.
(b) On: “Besides, you don’t fight. Anyone is good at typing words from behind a computer screen. Again, as you say, resisters are the ones who fight. So you scribblers don’t qualify.“
– The NEWSDESK HELSINKI FINLAND resists, having put forth the most detailed description of the actions of the Jihad in Iraq in English at the moment. Therefore the authorization of AMSI recognizing the NDHF as a “Iraqi Resistance Faction”
© The AMSI people in their naive generosity wished to grant you, that you would be members of the Iraqi Resistance, is only symbolic. You are Finns, as you say, so you can’t really be members of the Iraqi Resistance, which is a nationalist, not internationalist movement.
– Nonsense. If there’s something that AMSI’s not, its “naïve” (or “unaware” as suggested by another nick visiting this site previously). Under AMSI authorization we are members of the Iraqi Resistance.
I am Mujahid Louhi, working with Mujahideen brothers Ilmarinen, Perkele and Väinämöinen (the NDHF Webmaster).
§4. @ Tariq, on “YOU HATE SADDAM HUSSEIN, THE BAATH PARTY AND THE IRAQI PEOPLE, WORK FOR THE OCCUPATION AND ONLY POSE AS SUPPORTERS OF THE NOBLE AMSI AND THE HEROIC IRAQI RESISTANCE FOR STRATEGIC PURPOSES.“
– Our view concerning the Mujahid brother Hussein has already been stated above. Our view about the Baath party is identical with that of AMSI: already a year+ ago AMSI took publicly the view that
“The United States and the Iraqi government must agree to abolish all aspects of the current de-Baathification law and return Baathist officials to their positions in the government and in the military;” (this AMSI view available in the comment section of the article http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2007/10/20/the-americans-promised-to-recognize-the-iraq-resistance/)
– We agree. However, due to the recent Baath party split we deem the pro-U.S. baathist collaborators as part of the occupation and so treat the traitors according to the official AMSI policy as stated by Mujahid Harith al-Dari:
“Who will cooperate with occupiers against Iraq will never serve the nation even a single part of it. ”
http://theunitedstatesofmonsters.blogspot.com/2007/11/top-news-iraq-al-dari-al-quds-jerusalem.html
@Taria & @all
There is no connection nor comprimise between the Arab Baath Party and Jihad for the sake of God. Tariq talks about how one can be a Baathist and a Muslim, yet by using the word *and* it should be clear to all that he has gone down the road of polytheism (shirk) by associating another lifestyle, culture, nation, and political/economic/legislative body beside that of God (through his message in the Quran and final messanger, Muhammad — the faithful carrier of the Quran). He also talks about how enlightened and humanistic such a party would be, but take a close look at the most secular and “free” nation on earth — the United States of America, and you will see how disgusting and lost that culture and those people have become on account of their secular ideology. And they don’t even base their political ideology on ethnicity.
A good explanation of how pan-arab nationalism (and nationalism in general) is against Islam, incompatiable with Islam, and a form of shirk — which is truly the worst sin a human being can ever commit, can be found within this page…
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ln=eng&ref=97732
@NDHF:
“any discussion about Baath is nonsensical before committing either to the pro-U.S. or anti-U.S. branch of the Baath party”
There are no two Baath, but the one and only OFFICIAL Baath Party fighting the occupiers, backing, co-ordinating and inspiring all the patriotic, nationalist and Islamic forces in the Iraqi Resistance, and then a VERY SMALL, INSIGNIFICANT splinter faction of renegades collaborating with the occupiers, who have LOST their right to call themselves “Baathists”.
I belong to the FORMER (ANTI-U.S.) group — and NO, not as any sort of “talent scout” ;-)
Believe me or not, as you prefer. I won’t lose any sleep over you. My conscience is CLEAR before God and my Iraqi people.
Now that I have “committed” myself, I hope you will be satisfied and give me and the other members of this forum a well-deserved rest :-)
Thank you !
Regards,
Tariq
@Newsdesk
Your accusations (now spanning many entries and many reports) against Qaidah al-Jihad are truly baseless and inaccurate. You can make a point that the organization (the ISI) has been infilterated and framed for many things. I don’t disagree with that. But, if al-Qaidah can be infilterated, so can each and every faction of the Iraqi resistance. Indeed, accusations have been leveled at these other factions for having recieved aid and influence (or even been infilterated) by Saudi, Jordanian, Egyption, and other foreign intellegence. And who do these countries and their governments answer to??
At the end of the day, while the Arab Baath Party is a legitimate threat to Israel, no other faction within the Iraqi resistance matters. The exception are those who call for a return to a Khalifah, and this scares not just Israel, but all the major powers of the world together. Strength comes through unity, and what better type of unity is there than the unity that transcends tribes and nations, colors and borders??
So understand what this is, and understand what this means. The world in indebted to the Iraqi resistance, and dependant on Iraqi oil, but the cradle of civilization is no longer the sole focus of the world. Oppressed Muslims everywhere are waiting for the return of Islaam, and the deserts of Iraq (as well as the mountains of Khurasan) are our only hope!