Reported on many Iraqi news sites, an Iraqi soldier killed two American soldiers and a captain for kicking a pregnant Iraqi woman
The incident happened two days ago when an Iraqi soldier “Caesar Saadi” joined the American occupation forces in a raid in Mosul, he opened fire after he saw the American soldiers started to beat and kick an Iraqi pregnant woman.
Lebanese newspaper Al-akhbar reported today the story added:
In the streets of Mosul, graffiti appeared on the walls yesterday saying:
Well done Caesar
Also, people in the city are distributing leaflets saying the same text.
Caesar is now in custody accused with killing three Americans.
I would like to know where this came from and if there’s any references in any creditable press. Or is it just a rumor.
Thx
E
It is reported by the Iraqi government news agency
and also on alakhbar newspaper
I laughed when I read this.
This is the Best Fake Propaganda Story of The Year.
Good Job, Ladybird.
When this story is debunked, will you run a retraction?
And you know what Ladysweetie, if there is any truth to it,
I will apologize to you. But it seems so propaganderish,
that I want to see some major confirmation of the story, not the less
than trustworthy Iraqi sectarian media. And a Lebanese newspaper,
you’re reaching low. They print anything in Lebanese media.
@Mister Ghost
Sure…and abu ghraib was propaganda as well uh, and this here depicting british toops is also propaganda right…
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3884035267639445814
Well it looks like MNF Iraq released a statement confirming the death of two soldiers by an Iraqi army soldier. Now what about the rape allegations.…..
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16233&Itemid=128
Alright, so an Iraqi soldier and others attacked and killed two American soldiers and wounded four others including the civilian interpreter during a combined military engagement in Ninewah Province on December 25th.
That part has been verified.
But, we still don’t know the reason why for the attack.
I will still believe it, when i see it, as regards beating/raping a pregnant woman.
That part sounds very fishy.
Iraqi General says Caesar was an insurgent/infiltrator:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7172779.stm
But Iraqi general Mutaa al-Khazraji said: “They (the joint patrol) were attacked by gunmen and the (Iraqi) soldier abused the situation and killed the two soldiers.”
He said the Iraqi serviceman had been “an insurgent infiltrator”. He was arrested and is being questioned.
That sounds much more likely as a true explanation for the situation.
Does anybody has any fotos with graffiti on the walls?
It would be amusing if it weren’t so tragic; that so many amerikans would rather believe an account in the NYT (famous for “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction”, “Proof of Iranian nuclear program in newly discovered briefcase” etc) which deliberately avoids and obfuscates the issues around this patriot’s defence of his country and its womenfolk from barbarian invaders, than the account given by media in the country the incident occurred.
All it will take will be some fictional TV drama put out by a zionist TV producer that includes some similar details but where an amerikan detective proves either the soldiers didn’t kick the woman, or she wasn’t pregnant but was concealing a bomb (reinforcing the all arabs are terrarists BS). This is uncovered as the detective hunts an Iraqi who has sworn to avenge this incident inside amerika. the ommissiion by the NYT plus the TV show will be enough for most amerikans to decide that no amerikan kicked any pregnant woman.
Will amerikans ever wake up and recognise how they are being played by their own media? Played by the very people whose livelihood they support by consuming whatever it is pushed at them in the gaps between the lies and half-truths?
A perfect example of how the western media changes the basic facts of a story to cover up the Nazi tactics of the occupiers. I hope that Caesar survives until Iraq is liberated from the parasitic occupiers and is one day recognised for his gallantry in protecting this defenceless woman. Hopefully his actions will become an inspiration to other Iraqi soldiers.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m39854&hd=&size=1&l=e
The only proper thing a real man can do to such mindless cowardly dogs that invade countries and participate in genocide and other destruction and terrorism including beat innocent defenceless woman on behalf of the cowardly protected useless eater class of profiteering self centered stockholders, bankers and Corporate CEOs. The man needs a hero’s parade for his natural male gallantry. Not persecution.
Looks like NY TImes is reporting this as well, minus the deal about the Americans kicking the pregnant woman. SUN
I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THE KICKING AND BEATING OF A PREGNANT WOMAN IS A HORRIFIC ACT THAT SHOULD BE SEVERLY PUNISHED. WITH THAT SAID I NOW ASK: WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS THIS CHARGE? REMEMBER SPORTS FANS: IT AIN’T TRUE UNTIL IT IS CONFIRMED.
WHY NOT TRY DOING YOUR OWN CONFORMATION! START BY COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM NUMEROUS, CREDIBLE AND UNCONNECTED SOURCES. IF THESE UNCONNECTED SOURCES ALL POINT IN THE SAME DIRECTION: IT IS A SAFE BET THAT YOU OPEN SOURCE COLLECTION IS TIMELY AND USEFUL. NEXT, DO AN ANALYSIS OF YOUR COLLECTION WITH A COOL HEAD AND A COLD HEART. NOW, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REACH A CONCLUSION BASED ON FACTS AND ANALYSIS, NOT EMOTION.
ALWAYS REMEMBER SPORTS FANS: A CONCLUSION ON THE BASIS OF INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE IS A MAJOR ERROR IN REASONING.
If it is true then I am glad.….. time for the Iraqi beople to rebel against the invading army of the USA.….… time to get their country back once again.
I suspect either this is true OR…
AS THE IRAQ SOLDIER IS HELD IN CUSTUDY, THEN…
THE USA WANTS TO SET UP A PERSON FOR THE IRAQ PEOPLE TO FALL FOR ACCEPTING AS THEIR LEADER TO ALLOW THEM AN OUT TO EXIT IRAQ.
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM ON THE SPOT.
IF THIS IS THE CASE HE WILL ESCAPE TO FREEDOM , GAIN A FOLLOWING AND EITHER BETRAY HIS IRAQ PEOPLE WHO HE LEARNS ARE FIGHTING THE USA ; OR LEAD THEM IN ALLOWING USA TO EXIT IRAQ.
THEN AGAIN IT MAY BE TRUE?
The poor woman is only one of many.… the US is responsible for the deaths of 1 500 000 Iraqis.… but the quick delivery of Justice by Ceasar should be Commended… Give the guy a Medal.
Considering the bestial way American soldiers have been behaving since the start of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, anything is possible. Let’s face it: US GIs are the new Huns and Bush is a brain dead Attila. Cheney is already half dead, huge and full of corrupted garbage so there is no need to bring him into this argument.…History will judge him as a big pile of brown feces.…
WELL DONE CEASAR!!!MAY GOD BLESS YOU
If they kicked and beat a pregnant woman, they’re not American soldiers, but criminals in American uniforms. Such brutality causes blowback which kills real American soldiers. It’s about time some of these thugs were held accountable, and they are.
Yeah, this is for real. I read about it a week ago on a site i visit regularly. Hopefully this will be a turning point, and the Iraqi people will unite against their common enemy. Then maybe we’ll see chumps like Mr. Ghost going overseas to fight for his hero GW.
So, the SURGE is working then.
Right this is just propaganda.so is the Blackwater incident the Haditha massacre, abu graihb and so on and so on and so on.They got what they deserved id have done the same.
“ALWAYS REMEMBER SPORTS FANS: A CONCLUSION ON THE BASIS OF INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE IS A MAJOR ERROR IN REASONING.”
What, you mean like weapons of mass destruction? I’m afraid this isn’t a sporting event, and I’m not here as a “sports fan.” This is an illegal and immoral war and occupation, based on and bolstered by demonstrable lies. So I am going to listen to what the victims have to say.
In response to the post above my Mr. Gilday re: his statement “A CONCLUSION ON THE BASIS OF INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE IS A MAJOR ERROR IN REASONING.”
Very true– and one very well worth remembering, in light of the pre-invasion WMD claims made against Iraq, the pre-invasion estimates of conduct of the occupation of Iraq, and the present WMD claims being made against Iran.
So far, it appears the US government has been batting 0 for 3; so why are we to trust anything the government says with relation to anything concerning the multiple situations in the Middle East?
I concur with Mr. Gilday: get the facts and THEN judge the case. Don’t rush to condemn or exonerate before you have sufficient evidence.
As the wife of a former US Marine, I am very sad to say I believe this is true, and I applaud Caesar for his actions. I am so very sorry for what our government is doing over there. Our soldiers are painted here as heroes and in reality, their humanity and faith is drilled out of them in boot camp and they are brainwashed into forgetting what human beings look like. I just praise God that many, like my husband, see the truth and leave the service before they are too far lost. The good men are surrounded by the barbarians and helpless to stop the horror.
What most apparently fail to grasp is this: it really doesn’t matter whether the claim that the Americans were beating a pregnant woman is objectively true in this particular incident. What is indisputable is that the population of Mosul believes it to be true. Based on their experience of how US troops have behaved in the past, they believe it to be true.
We wore out our welcome long, long ago. Time to withdraw ALL troops ASAP.
hey mister ghost, you are such a moron.
and you said you would apologize, yet you didn’t. so that makes you a liar too.
One of those American soldiers muredered by that Iraqi, was my close friend. I knew him to be a God fearing man, and he is a true Hero. He was a very kind man, a lover not a fighter. I know he would never have done such a thing, he was one of the best men I have known. This Propaganda should not be distributed.
I find this amusing when I read things like this from the American media. Do they seriously believe that the majority of Iraqis actually want the USA to stay in Iraq? Over 1.2 million people killed as a direct result of the illegal American oil invasion, very little clean water resulting in disease. Iraq being turned into a “failed state”, practically no electricity supplies but yet it still seems that some Americans still believe the olde “greeted with flowers” myth.
Unbelievable.
http://www.bakersfield.com/102/story/327168.html
But Seth Colebrook — a buddy of Portell’s from high school and RiverLakes church — had heard enough.
“It’s almost like Judas from the Bible,” said an emotional Colebrook Saturday afternoon, a mere 15 minutes after hearing the news of the turncoat Iraqi. “It’s like Vietnam all over again. If they don’t want us there we should get out.”
Bryan US soldiers have committed lots of war crimes in Iraq and elsewhere I am sure all of their families find it extreme difficult to admit.
I find it amusing when I read things like 1.2 million dead do directly from the iraq war.……
Lets do some math
58 months of war
Thats 20,700 dead each and every month or 690 dead each and every day for 1825 days.
some of you people are pathetic!
I know it’s late to respond — I just found this. The report from Iraq is untrue. The American soldiers were not beating a pregnant woman. How do I know? The sergeant who was killed was my son-in-law. There was no way he would allow his men to behave in such a manner. He was serious about discipline and taking care of his men and he died taking a bullet for one of them.
I don’t understand why you would rather believe propaganda from people whose idea of afternoon sport is to carry bombs into pet markets and kill women and children, just because they adhere to a different branch of the same religion. They beheaded an American soldier, for God’s sake, and you still believe they are telling the truth.
The man who shot Ben is in jail. He’s coming up on charges of Homicide and Terrorism.
Of course this is a stupid, wrong headed war. But that doesn’t mean our soldiers are beasts. Most are good, honest, caring men and women. Please don’t villify them.