One last desperate attempt by the U.S. officials is reported by the Green Zone newspaper Al-Sabaah saying they are pressuring to convince the Iraqi parliament to accept the agreement:
U.S. officials met with the Iraqi Security and Defense Commission of the parliament for two hours but the American delegation left the meeting without any sign of progress shown in their faces.
The newspaper noted that there was a closed-circuit meeting with Washington also.
According to Saudi newspaper Al-Watan, in his coming visit to Iraq, Iranian parliament speaker “Ali Larijani” will give Sistani a letter related to the position of the Supreme religious authority from the security agreement.
Speaking about the religious authority, I just want to mention the significance of Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah’s Fatwa against the agreement because he is Maliki’s Dawa Party spiritual leader.
In his statement Fadlallah said that Iraqi Mp’s asked for his guidance and he gives his advice in these points:
Any agreement or pact signed by the Iraqi government or any side represents the Iraqi government with the American occupation forces must take the following points in account:
- Provide a clear withdrawal timetable without any restrictions or conditions.
- Do not link the occupation forces withdrawal with the stability of the security situation in Iraq, because we know the United States security and political relations can influence the region and the world. They can tamper the security issue in Iraq at any time, to ensure and legitimize their presence in Iraq.
- Any American invaders agreement, pact or document, should take into account the national and the Islamic standards which are constants issues especially in matters: Iraq, sovereignty, independence, the future of the nation and the generations, the preservation of its destiny and wealth.
- There is no legitimacy for any Iraqi authority or institution, formal or informal imposes the occupation on its people or to legitimize the presence of the occupation forces on the Iraqi ground.
Al-Hayat today saying:
An anonymous source from the United Iraqi Alliance told the newspaper:
We don’t want to sign the agreement with Bush administration, we want to wait for the outcome of the U.S. presidential election….Polls show Obama is going to win, we don’t want to give victory to the Republicans.
And this is how the government is playing this game as reported on Kuwaiti Al-Watan:
The Political Council is already decided to accord the agreement, and to transfer it to the Cabinet of the Ministers to address the objections and refer the document to the Parliament.
The newspaper learned that the Political Council has already asked the parliament to form special committees which are the legal and the security committees to study the agreement.
They submit their recommendations to the Political Council which in its turn will refer it to the Cabinet of the Ministers to address its opinion on the proposals.
Actually this is a risky play by the Iraqis. Is this the reward for liberating you from a tyrant? If it were up to me I’d rub your arrogant smug Iraqi face in the Iranian Dog shit from which you were birthed.
Interesting that the Iraqis have no concern of losing their national assets. Once the UN resolution suspends, without signing sofa Iraq will immediately lose 80 billion dollars. that’s right, all the cash reserves that backs your currency. you shall also lose your stock market and all the multibillion dollars of foreign investment.
Oh well I guess Iraqis enjoy kicking goatheads around soccer fields in disrepair or perhaps they’d enjoy a return to the slavery a dictator brings.
Remember it was America who freed you and the Christian eternal almighty God who had mercy on you. Blessed be Jesus forever.
But I guess you like mass graves and torture instead.
captain america doesn’t like taking no for an answer. captain america thinks he deserves a ‘reward’.
boo hoo. he makes big bad threats. iraqis don’t seem so scared of you anymore. maybe 80 billion dollars doesn’t seem like so much money when compared to sovereignty and not having your people bombed when they are sleeping.
quit whining.
Oh boy you are an interesting soul aren’t you? It’s obvious you have zero understanding of the mechanisms in play here.
Perhaps before you engage the next time you might want to educate yourself intricacies of this international situation.
For example, and I’m sure this thought never crossed your mind, most likely due to the lack of oxygen. You know you really need to see a proctologist about that headache. Moving on though, without the Sofa all that Iraq hopes for and desires of building a better Iraq will be lost.
Every single nation on earth who has ever loaned a cent to Iraq will immediately require it. In fact Russia, China and all the Paris club nations only two days ago have gone the record and publicly stated so. Therefore there will be no money to build the nation.
Plus there are the hundreds of billions of dollars of commercial debt outstanding. Right now Iraq is not sovereign in fact you could view them as a colony of the United Nations since it is their resolutions who keep that country in its restricted state of being. Surprised huh?
Amazing that you cannot comprehend that the sofa is the mechanism that launches Iraqi sovereignty. You must be a Larry Nichols lackey. What a dope he is. That would explain your lack of intellect.
Do yourself and have another swig of the wild turkey and I’ll wake you when its over.…
Captain America, why don’t you tell me exactly when the U.S have tried to help Iraq. The U.S have had many chances since interfering with Iraq, which stretch as far back as the 50’s.
Please enlighten me instead of sounding like the typical ignorant Yankee–
Unlike you we don’t sell out our country to become a dog of the U.S, we will do what we always do to foreigners, which is to simply tell you to f-off our country. Furthermore it will just show that your nation is nothing but a nation with people blindly lusting for blood and a nation that bully third world nations, in other words nothing but a nation with a terrorist government and ignorant citizens.
Sorry to break your heart but we don’t bow down to the “white men” (who always come with good intentions as you probably think) to make our country better, we do it by ourself. The U.S have clearly demonstrated many times that its our biggest enemy and the biggest threat to our LIFES.
Tell me why we should trust a nation who occupy our nation, who’ve lied to us million of times and still do. Let’s see what you have to come with.
The Sofa launch Iraqi sovereignty? What? With U.S troops on our soil for some more years? That’s what we, like the rest of the world call occupation, meanwhile only Americans like you are dumb enough to call it ‘liberation’ and ‘protection’. I don’t see how someone can not be capable of understanding that people of ANY nation don’t want a force that have brought death to their lands but then Americans never cease to amaze me with the new level of retardness they can reach. I think I’m starting to understand what this “land of opportunity” stuff is all about–
By your logic the Brits helped you keeping your sovereignity before, strange that you kicked them out. Brilliant, you genius!
Come on now, tell me just ONE time when the U.S have helped Iraq.
Annie, Captain America have problems understanding the following words:
Sovereignity
Cultural identity
Country
Don’t be so hard on them, many Americans do tend to think of money only. Guys like him would be among the first ones to help an invading army in their country. Captain America is just angry that those little “worthless weak brown people” aren’t bowing down to their new white masters, he’s angry that they are expressing their views! This is also normal since the U.S have a history of demonizing anyone who try to get ahead of them or not agreeing with them.
Gosh so what I’m hearing from you is that you enjoyed watching the sons of Iraq waste their lives and destroy the innocent while being paid to do so by in the name of God by those who have never ever encountered him.
Sovereignty status is a fact, without the US military support the Iraqi government would fall to another violent dictator. Are you not aware of the Iranian Proxy War they have waged for nearly thirty years? Sure Iran is concerned with the US troops, can’t blame them as it really dampens their genocidal scope and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Cultural identity? who wants to change that? I’ve read many a report of the starry eyed looks the Iraqi leaders have when they gaze at Dubai or when they Visit the US. Iraqi leaders yearn for Iraq to be this way as they have said so from their own mouths.
Yet none of them has ever stated they fear losing an Iraqi identity rather they wish to enhance it. In fact recently I read that Maliki really enjoys Pizza and American beer. Imagine that? so much for Identity.
Lastly, lets speak of Country.
Under Saddam Iraq was pillaged. All one needs do is view the erected palaces to his name and the torture, murder and mass graves and you call that country? is that something Iraqis relish to return to? If so then that’s a cultural identity that requires medical assistance. If you need that some assistance i can help you too.…
Cpt Looser
An other fact…
Under US occupation Iraq was pillaged. All one needs do is view the Green Zone and and US military bases to their name and the torture, murder and mass graves and you call that liberation?
Keep Going.…
“Sovereignty status is a fact, without the US military support the Iraqi government would fall to another violent dictator. Are you not aware of the Iranian Proxy War they have waged for nearly thirty years? Sure Iran is concerned with the US troops, can’t blame them as it really dampens their genocidal scope and I wouldn’t have it any other way.”
The Iraqi government who were brought by the U.S is nothing more then a puppet. The U.S, together with Iran, own the government, this is self-evident by looking at things like the numbers of loyal followers to Iran. Maliki playing as a hardcore nationalist is just temporary. The Iranian influence already exist deep in the country. The Badr organization is controlled by the SIIC, which itself become nothing but a slave to the Persians after the Islamic revolution of Iran, in fact all four of Aziz Al-Hakims group are IRANIAN creations. Do you know what the difference between the current U.S-put government and Saddam was? Nothing except Saddam stayed as a barbarian Iraqi in the end while the current government already sold themselves out to Iran. Notice that Saddam was among your best friends once too when he was your dog..I guess a fact like that hurts your dumb republican mind eh? The problem with your dumb redneck thinking is that you believe the U.S is some shining white knight while the surrounding countries are evil guys who want to take over the world. But it couldn’t be farther away from the truth, the surrounding countries do cause problem for Iraq, always have, but the U.S is the one causing MOST problems and have been causing most problems for us. Read some history, modern Iran has done far less damage to modern Iraq compared to the U.S, in fact the U.S make Iran look like a f-king saint.
“Cultural identity? who wants to change that? I’ve read many a report of the starry eyed looks the Iraqi leaders have when they gaze at Dubai or when they Visit the US. Iraqi leaders yearn for Iraq to be this way as they have said so from their own mouths.”
You idiot, you call Dubai an example of a city that keeps its cultural identity? Its on its way to lose whatever left of its Arab identity thanks to the massive import of “slaves” (aka Pakistanis and other south Asians) and due to the rise of westerners (among other groups) moving over there to settle down and work.
Westerners are responsible for most of the architecture in Dubai. What’s even more amazing is that the English language seem to take over the arabic language more and more as Dubai’s official language due to the emirate’s role on the international fields, so say good bye to the Arabic language in the future. Furthermore the idea of building a skyscraper is a WESTERN idea, not that there is anything particularly wrong with it but it further shows western influence in the country. Dubai is doing everything to appease western tourists (because without western tourism they will practically die as their oil is pretty much gone), while they take little consideration to their culture which still is there but slowly is disappearing.
Iraqi leaders yearning for the crappy disgusting U.S or Dubai proves my point exactly. This doesn’t come as a surprise, many of them were after all exiled thugs who feel superior to their Iraqi brothers & sisters just because they’ve lived in the western world.
“Yet none of them has ever stated they fear losing an Iraqi identity rather they wish to enhance it. In fact recently I read that Maliki really enjoys Pizza and American beer. Imagine that? so much for Identity.”
You seriously can’t be this stupid.…or wait..you’re American, never mind.
“Lastly, lets speak of Country.
Under Saddam Iraq was pillaged.”
With full active support from the United States of America, until the U.S lied to him. Thanks for letting me know something I already knew. Saddam also made Iraq prosperous under the 70’s. Did you know that!?
“All one needs do is view the erected palaces to his name and the torture, murder and mass graves and you call that country? is that something Iraqis relish to return to? If so then that’s a cultural identity that requires medical assistance. If you need that some assistance i can help you too….”
So let’s go by your cultural identity instead.
1. An army used for conducting murdering policies by a terrorist government.
2. An army targeting civilian installations just to make the local population suffer.
3. An army that killed anything in its sight, men, women, children, civilian cars etc., all this far away from any battlefield, during a “Shock and Awe” campaign
4. An army allowing thugs to loot treasures important to Iraq’s history
5. An army that insulted, humiliated and imprisoned people whenever they wanted. At some points putting boots on the necks of harmless men in front of their children and wifes just to degrade Iraqi men.
6. An army that fired and still fire on civilian vechiles on the road at the slightest suspicion, sometimes in fact totally unprovoked, killing entire families. And then they go on to claim that those they killed were terrorists.
7. An army firing at protestors who were marching against the seizure of their children’s school. The seizure itself was done by the very same army–
8. An army bombing a certain town for totally three weeks, killing hundreds of innocent people in the process, including women and children.
9. An army that sent a 2000 pound bomb that had a destructive distance of 400 meters into INHABITED areas just to destroy a “suspected “terrorist in a house, and as we all know suspected terrorist often mean innocent people.
10. An army who used white phosphorous on Iraqi civilians.
11. An army which tortured and abused prisoners. Let me remind you that many of these prisoners were in fact held without any charges. The humiliation done to THEM will take a long time to forget by Iraqis.
12. An army insulting and sexually harassing Iraqi women
13. An army holding Iraqi women detained just to threaten their husbands who they wanted to capture
14. An army consisting of trigger-happy cowboys spraying bullets in people who just went on with their daily life, those shitty americans later got away with it, but when the same army shot their comrades and superiors they got sentenced to prison. This shows how much Americans value Iraqi life.
15. An army that shelled the most sacred shine in the city of Najaf to bring a leader to “justice” despite the fact that the leader’s people at this time held 21 seats in the National Assembly.
16. An army that bombed entire towns to clean out “insurgents” and so called “terrorists”…killing even more people then the terrorists themselves at some points.
17. An army terrorizing people still today in their OWN country in the name of “liberation”
18. An army that brought suicide bombers, foreign fighters to a country who’s local population had no quarrel with whatsoever prior to the occupation
19. An army were members can rape 14 year old Iraqi girls.
20. An army who carried out an air strikes in an inhabited area, claiming they were targetting terrorists, however the dead ones turned out to be women, children and old men who were not a threat in anyway. Despite proof of the victims the army refused to believe it and continued to lie to the media
I could go on forever. In case if your yankee brain is incapable of figuring out which army this is then its the U.S army
Saddam did kind of the same thing, killed people he didn’t like with his men…difference is that he still kept Iraq somewhat stable.…..while the U.S made it worse. Quite embarrassing of a so-called super-power, you haven’t been able to keep a country in better shape compared to your own former (now dead) dog, who himself was a dictator. Way to go, great accomplishment…or should I say: Mission Accomplished!
By the way this army is fully supported by the citizens of the United States. Kind of shows that U.S citizens are not only hypocrites but people who support a murdering tool, in other words they support killing of innocent people half across the world but most are to stupid to figure this out.
21. You couldn’t answer my question because there is not an answer to it as the U.S have never helped Iraq and never will, any kind of help is in its own interest, not Iraqis interest, this is obvious to most sane people around the world except Americans who like to eat anything their government shit out.
Piss off.
this is obvious to most sane people around the world except Americans who like to eat anything their government shit out.</i.
oh, not really. i think many americans understand quite well what is going on. don’t listen to these criminal paid trolls who come here to shit their propaganda all over the place.
Do yourself and have another swig of the wild turkey and I’ll wake you when its over…
fuck off you pathetic criminal piece of crap. don’t ever elude to you ‘waking me’. go back to masterbating all over your key board you filthy worm.
ANNIE, the sane americans who are left never get the opportunity or time to spread their voice, which doesn’t come as a surprise. Eventually the sane and smart americans will be eaten up by the insane ones.
There are some great Americans out there, its just that one almost never meet them.
never get the opportunity or time to spread their voice
well, this is the point of paying these ‘infowar’ bloggers, to dominate the conversation and make everyone think they represent us. frankly tho i think most americans, while not asleep, just tire of hearing about the war. and the media doesn’t help because they make it all as boring and neutral as possible and non existent as possible. maybe 10% of americans know about the sofa with any sense of what is going on. but most people are very angry with the government.
i wonder how they are going to try to keep those bases. it is hard to imagine the US just packing up and going home and leaving all that cement, oil, and conquered green zone real estate territory. still, it is little fun hearing this troll squeal like a pig before slaughter w/his stupid ‘Iraq hopes for and desires of building a better Iraq will be lost’ as if! this is some drunk rapist bragging about how you can’t live without him. ok, i am running late.
be well lagash