"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change" ~ Charles Darwin
Iraqi TV al-Sharqiya just reported on the news that AL-Zaidi is transferred to Camp Cropper prison [the Airport prison, managed by the American forces].
The TV Channel announced that Al-Zaidi is in a difficult condition, with broken ribs and signs of tortures on his thighs. Also he can not move his right arm.
P.S.
I am just telling you what I heard on TV.
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This article was written December 16th, 2008, with the mathematical number of 251 contributions.
OUCH.…george bush needs to learn arithmatic too.…
“You helped our nation celebrate its bicentennial in 17 — 1976.” –president Bush to Queen Elizabeth, Washington, D.C., May 7, 2007
Amazing that he could read the size 10 of those shoes that spoke for all of the world‘s population who had been dreaming of doing what Zaidi had the courage to do!!!
Americans are a bunch of cowards and blind hypocrites! Finally someone had the courage to stand-up and face the enemy in a very heroic manner„ even if that meant torture afterwards! Good Job Al-Zaidi! my heart goes out to you and everyone who paid a very high price for this pathetic invasion .. history repeating itself, just like Hitler now we have another delusional to play his part years later.
I am French and Catholic.
As a Catholic and in support to my Muslim brothers, I want to state the following:
The american administration and its army starves and massacres innocent civilians while running an illegal war in Irak. The attitude of Georges Bush and his accomplices is abject..
I want to bring to Mr Mountazer al-Zaïdi, who legitimately throw his shoes to the coward, heretic and war monger, George Bush, all my support and my prayers. Mountazer al-Zaïdi is an Iraki Hero who trasncends his engagement for the freedom of his people by his acts. I know that God has his eyes on him and will protect him. He is a hero, and will have my prayers.
It is a symbol more powerful than bombs or rockets. It is the defiance of lies. It was a brief moment when Bush actually made contact with the world he so terribly disfigured.
Just Lurkin–
I must apologize for my Ranting towards you earlier. I had a Terrible spat with my Thai Boyfriend, He’s Pre –op. The Gerbil shipment was late again and we couldnt find enough Mice to replace them in a timely manner.
BURN THAT CAMEL JOCKY AND KILL HIS FUCKING FAMILY… WE SHOULD NUKE YOU UNGRATEFULL DIRTY LITTLE BASTARDS AND TAKE YOUR FUCKING OIL… STOP YOUR FUCKING WHINING BECAUSE WE CAME ON YOUR SOIL AND WHIPPED YOUR ASS! DROP BOMBS ON ALL OF THEM! OUR MILITARY IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND IF YOU COULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN DAMN PROBLEMS WE WOULDN’T HAVE TO STEP IN AND DO IT FOR YOU! BURN IN HELL YOU DIRTY SAND NIGGERS, I HOPE YOU ALL STARVE SLOWLY!
AS SOON AS YOU DIRTY LITTLE BITCHES COME TO GRIPS WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE YOUR WHITE MASTERS … WE WILL GET ALONG FINE!
i think people with half a brain who can’t handle freedom
or can’t understand that education, NOT demented religious beliefs, should be their top priority
should be put to death
no need for this Bullshit from this Zaftwave or any other fucking pugnacious muslim
no need for women treated worse than animals
no need for worthless news coverage on “martyrs”
“ZAFTWAVE
Just Lurkin–
I must apologize for my Ranting towards you earlier. I had a Terrible spat with my Thai Boyfriend, He’s Pre –op. The Gerbil shipment was late again and we couldnt find enough Mice to replace them in a timely manner.”
Seems I have a fan already who somehow mistook me for being his mother, but then even your own mother can’t love your face.
“phatso
i think people with half a brain who can’t handle freedom
or can’t understand that education, NOT demented religious beliefs, should be their top priority
should be put to death
no need for this Bullshit from this Zaftwave or any other fucking pugnacious muslim
no need for women treated worse than animals
no need for worthless news coverage on “martyrs””
Once again the assumption of me being a muslims, ever crossed your mind that I could be an Iraqi Assyrian from Mosul? Probably not. Drop dead you fat shit.
mind showing some proof before acusing my countries military of horable crimes against humanity? I’m saying heard implies there was no pictures.
Why don’t you start proving and showing images of all “suspected” terrorists you’ve been killing? Oh right, you can’t. You guys wouldn’t even believe us if million of Iraqis who’ve been in Iraq before 2003 until now were to tell you the same shit.
The world needs courageous people, Mexico this with AL-Zaidi
Sorry people, I seem to have another old Boyfriend stalker. He’s getting more and More pissy each week. I told you Arnold, it wasnt my fault you contracted Chlamydia. I warned you about the Liberian Midget.
I’lll contact my lawyers to get the Habitrail back, and it beeter be disinfected
I do not think anyone should judge prematurely. However I believe the suspect should be released as soon as possible. Isn’t there a bail system in the Iraq?
There is one in the USA.
“…Americans constantly talk shit about my people, my nation, my culture and what it stands for, its all fine. I’ll do the same.
Zaftwave–
Sorry to be the one to tell you, but your “culture” peaked about 900 years ago. Now it’s a bunch of just-above-Neanderthal assholes running around in bathrobes and mom’s drapes on thier head, blowing up anyone who disagrees with them. We talk shit because we CAN.
STOP Represion Genocid in the name of Peace thet how Usa tock land from Indians. Thet how thay whant to ruall holl world.
Smiling saying thay are peace mackers, when thay puth thar feet anly blood and sofering came from ther peace.
Al Zaidi is FIRST but not a lone Great man with Great courige.
It was the time to thet licimer govermant od USA some one say and showe some respeckt thay desrve a long time a go.
FREEE AL ZAIDI
ZAFTWAVE– if they haven’t taken the videos down try googleing the name “Saddam Hussein” and see what comes up. also try “never bring a gun to a tank fight” I’ve heard that ones pretty good to, and you still have yet to prove these accusations.
SRBIAN– half the world was taken in conquest. The way we obtained these lands is crap true (I’m speeking of our treatment of the indians whom probobly also gained this land in a fight before them). I won’t tell you we’re “peacemakers” because the only way to obtain world peace is it one country ruled the entire world and even then it would only be through military power. Also saying we want to “rule the world” because we don’t care for people flying planes into our buildings is just stupid. some of us had friends neighbors and family in those buildings when they came crashing down around them. Also we have no wish to rule the world, if we did we could do it. We’ve got the man power and the money and there are only a few nations that would even give us trouble (ex:Russia, China, etc.) as for you’re comments on Al Zaidi I really don’t care. No, he dosen’t deserve to be tortured, at most he was an annoyance. Big whoop, he threw shoes at someone. even if that someone is the president you have yet to adress the subject of why we would be torturing him? do we think he is the head of some dastardly organization of shoe chucking people. WOW that’s a big threat to national security. we should waste our time with this guy.
just so everyone knows ahead of time so you don’t think “he can’t answer our hard questions” I can see I’m horrably outnumbered here so I probobly won’t be responding to any insults or questions you may be throwing my way as I won’t even be reading them. It’s a waste of your time and mine.
“Zaftwave–
Sorry to be the one to tell you, but your “culture” peaked about 900 years ago. Now it’s a bunch of just-above-Neanderthal assholes running around in bathrobes and mom’s drapes on thier head, blowing up anyone who disagrees with them. We talk shit because we CAN.”
Your statement pretty much says that the Middle East consist of one culture only. You’re the biggest fucking idiot so far. I bet you call the whole East Asia “China with chinese culture”. Not a surprise, after all it was an American who thought Europe was a country. These kind of statements can only be found in the United States. Land of the Morons, Land of opportunities (of being an asshole) .
Looks to me that you started by overthrowing our government back in the 60’s because you didn’t agree with the ways we wanted to handle our country and our economy. Seems also to me that you started bombing us first with airstrikes, again because we disagreed or just to hurt us. Your comparison fails, just as your existence. Now sit down, eat another burger and shut the fuck up.
“ZAFTWAVE– if they haven’t taken the videos down try googleing the name “Saddam Hussein” and see what comes up. also try “never bring a gun to a tank fight” I’ve heard that ones pretty good to, and you still have yet to prove these accusations.”
I never defended or covered up Saddam’s atrocities, all of them exist, Iraqis suffered through them, what is there to hide about them? Only an asshole would hide his atrocities. meanwhile your nation tried to cover up his atrocities when you were his ally, and your people ignored it mostly back then too, since…well he was your ally.
Furthermore it was with the help of your government that the Baath regime came to power. Yet I don’t see anyone mentioning anything about this, because it would make all their previous statement (not yours so no offense meant to you) mean shit, as their government, elected by them, is directly responsible for the emergence of the Baath party which gave the possibility of Saddam to emerge as the leader of it later.
“and you still have yet to prove these accusations.”
Point out which you mean.
wouldn’tyouliketoknow, being outnumbered does not matter, just keep an interesting discussion where you can exchange views and opinions. :)
“Your comparison fails, just as your existence. Now sit down, eat another burger and shut the fuck up”
Ahh, Zaftwave, no I will not. Nice response, by the way — long on invective and venom, short on sense. If you want to see the biggest fucking idiot so far.…look in the mirror.
“Your comparison fails, just as your existence. Now sit down, eat another burger and shut the fuck up”
“Ahh, Zaftwave, no I will not. Nice response, by the way — long on invective and venom, short on sense. If you want to see the biggest fucking idiot so far….look in the mirror.”
Great comeback there, dipshit, so what do you have to say about the U.S government interferring in Iraq and helping to overthrow a government, which btw resulted in a couple of thousands of dead Iraqis (this was before all the shit the Baath party brought with it which would come later on)? Remember, prior to this Iraq had not even done anything bad against U.S.
Is your mouth so full of Bush’s shit that you can’t even think properly?
al-Zaidi is an asshole and should be shot for attempted murder on a visiting head of state. Fuck al-Zaidi. Whatever happens to the shitbird is his own fault, and he has nobody to blame but himself.
At least you are human; you are only a shoe thrower!
You have my sympathy and respect.. Thank YOU!
What is it with Arabs and their shoe throwing? Does the “insult” of being hit with a shoe stem from the fact that Arabs usually go barefoot, and owning shoes is the mark of a rich man. Shoes are so rare and unattainable to most Arabs. So the mere fact that one would throw such a valued possession at someone else speaks of their contempt for that individue. What a stupid and backwards culture. Islam, religion of peace. What bullshit!
Damn I think both sides are not ready for a democracy.
Weather the americans then the iraqis.
A lot of amaricans think they have a democracy — damn they fucking have a better organisated nazi regim.
Not only one party to vote, no 2 ones but the mens behind are the same fuckers.
Sadam killed people and Bush, too.
I dont hate americans, I dont hate anyone not for his citizenship not for his religion, but for his dullness.
And so there are to many dumb people in the world, it would be better the whole humanity would be dead…
.. sooner or later the humanity will — finaly — kill themselves.
Good Night, Good Fight…
Ah yeah i learned somethink from german history, dont give a person or group too much power.
You See all day what this causes.
The venomous slander hurled by blind culturally defunct Euro-trash does not impress me. The cheap anti-American propaganda peddled here is amazing.
Liberal fallacies are the best friend terrorists & dictators ever had. Solidarity with evil is their calling card.
American soldiers die to make men free, and Iraq is no exception.
May G-d have mercy on your souls.
JOES YANKEE, JUSTLURKIN, TEXAS MIKE
North korea has been proven to have weapons of mass destruction. Why did bush choose to attack iraq instead of north korea???
1. No oil to gain
2. North korea has china
3. attacking north korea will trigger another korean war. (which the usa knows it can’t win or else there would be no north korea today.)
Pick on someone your own size, invade north korea and see what happens, china will join first, then russia, then iran, and no ones gonna help you with no disguise of war on terrorism.
Cowards need to stop bashing china on tv and do something about it. Invade tibet or something.
America is known to be a country of racism, is a shithole with high crime rate, no health care, high racial tension, ignorant people, and shitty cars that break every two days.
Don’t compare with third world countrys, just compare with Canada, Britain, Austrailia, France, Norway, or any of these countrys and you will see how shitty life in America is.
There is most certainly a perverse side of me that prays for something horrible to happen so we can site on our island and tell the rest of the world to have a nice hot cup of too fucking bad, we’re not helping. The arrogance of the liberal douchebags on this site would be funny if it wasn’t such a representation of the idiocy in this world. As an American, there is nothing more that I would like to do than pick up our toys and take them home. You ungrateful fucks can end up throwing rocks at each other for all I care. The thought that even one US soldiers dies to help any of you idiots makes me sick. The whole lot of you aren’t worth it combined.
And Zaftwave, since you are such a badass, do me a favor and pick up a gun and take some shots at those soldiers you hate so dearly. It will warm my bed at night knowing that that an American bullet would be sending you to the void to never be heard from again. For all your kind words to our great nation, eat shit and die. And when I say die, I really mean it. Pick up a gun, badass and we’ll so how you fare.
al zaidi used his shoes instead of his mind because bush does not need any thing more than a shoe to be thrown at him . he is a killer . he created a haterance to all american all around the world .
Ahh, Zaftwave — I love arguing with a person who makes ad hominem attacks instead of some kind of point. I answer to your query, I would rather have a mouth full of Bush’s shit than a head full of it, as you do.
What do I say about the U.S. interefering in Iraq? GREAT!! Even if Code Pink is absolutely right, the worst we have done in Iraq is depose a murderous dictator who was fond of using chemical weapons on civilian populations in his own country, when they weren’t visiting his rape rooms. Not tear gas, but VX, mustard, and tabun, among others, and who operated a terrorist training base at Salman Pak, south of Baghdad.
Contrary to your fantasies, Iraq had, only a few years before, invaded one of their neighbors and took Americans in Iraq hostage to be used as human shields for his various military installations, including his nuclear facilities. After we had a fracas with them and kicked them out (without throwing one shoe), they proceeded to violate the Gulf War cease-fire (and UN resolution 687) with the United States 19 times, after which the U.S. was BY TREATY obligated to resume hostilities.
Why don’t you get your big ugly head out of Saddam’s dead ass, and actually look around — the world might look totally different.
Ahh, Zaftwave — I love arguing with a person who makes ad hominem attacks instead of some kind of point. I answer to your query, I would rather have a mouth full of Bush’s shit than a head full of it, as you do.
What do I say about the U.S. interefering in Iraq? GREAT!! Even if Code Pink is absolutely right,
So you admit interferring in another country, overthrowing what was a good and mostly civilized regime to replace it with the Baath regime, which btw Saddam came from (oh, did I also mention that Saddam could become the leader of Iraq, of course out of Iraqis hands, thanks to this direct support for the Baathists)?
You mean when Saddam was gassing people and the U.S didn’t give one fucking shit about it? Yeah I remember that.
I still remember reading and hearing from people how the U.S ignored the massacre in Halajba, hey let’s just say that you didn’t know Saddam would actually gas Kurds, this is the only excuse you might use to claim some morality, but fact is that prior to the gassings that Saddam ordered Hassan Ali Al-Majid had already been gassing people, which your government CLEARLY ignored. Shall I tell you what your government did? Instead of helping those victims you like to mention so much it kissed our Iraqi ass and gave our government, who then were under the rule of Saddam, MORE loan, this was after the gassings Hassan Ali Al-Majid did and AFTER the Halajba massacre.
Indeed Saddam and his savage men did rape women, just like your wonderful barbarian soldiers who’s shit you eat everyday raped a 14 year old Iraqi girl, shot her and burned her to death, along with her family. Now imagine the number of rapes done by U.S soldiers and not reported due to them being threatened or being killed and never heard of again. Same shit, different men. You belong in the same shithole as Saddam.
“Contrary to your fantasies, Iraq had, only a few years before, invaded one of their neighbors and took Americans in Iraq hostage to be used as human shields for his various military installations, including his nuclear facilities.”
Provide a source for this, notice btw how I don’t defend any action done by the government of Iraq, not now, and not before it unlike the U.S, which now defend the atrocities commited by the current government, and defended Saddam and his men’s atrocities when he served as an U.S ally.
“After we had a fracas with them and kicked them out (without throwing one shoe), they proceeded to violate the Gulf War cease-fire (and UN resolution 687) with the United States 19 times, after which the U.S. was BY TREATY obligated to resume hostilities.”
So start by invading your other ally, Israel, ever bothered to check the number of UN resolutions they’ve violated? Probably not, they are your allies after all AND they aren’t brown evil muslim terrorists eh? ;)
Your logic fail.
Btw, how come you didn’t mention what led to the gulf war? Such as April Glaspie lying to Saddam and giving him pretty much the green light to invade Kuwait AND the fact that Kuwait was drilling oil in Iraqi territory? Or the number of crimes the United Fuck of States commited during the Gulf War? I guess you’re one of those guys who believe Iraqi soldiers were killing Kuwaiti babies just like that, especially after the fact that your government and nation along with its people were exposed as lying sacks of shit.
Finally, let’s summarize your post:
You say its great that U.S interferred in Iraq. What does this mean? That you are in favor of your country invading other countries who’ve not done anything wrong to you, and fuck things up for them. To put this in more simple words, its ok to go out and beat a guy who haven’t done anything wrong at all towards you. Do you possibly belong to the KKK?
You say it was good of the U.S to interfer in Iraq and then proceed by saying that you took down a dictator (in other words you don’t support Saddam). Well you stupid american fuck, did you notice how you completely contradicted yourself? You support what the U.S did, which was to overthrow General Qasim’s regime, which in turn put the Baathists in power only to say right after that you don’t support the Baathists? So which is it? Fucking idiot.
You complain about Saddam and his regime gassing people, so do the rest of the world and most Iraqis. Yet you don’t mind the fact that government, elected by you guys and represented by you, ignored gassings done by two high leaders, one of them being the president of Iraq. Explain this, dipshit.
“Why don’t you get your big ugly head out of Saddam’s dead ass, and actually look around — the world might look totally different.”
Unlike your nation most people of my nation (that includes me) never supported Saddam, we never elected him, we never accepted him as a rightfull leader of Iraq and we fought back against him. Meanwhile your nation brought him to power, supported him like if he were your son by blood, and made sure he was a useful tool. Looks to me that the U.S, along with its people (which includes you, fuckshit Glenn) had your heads shoved so far up in Saddam’s ass that you couldn’t bother caring about the crimes he commited when he was your friend.
And once again Glenn proves that Americans are the dumbest fucking creatures alive on this earth.
Jack Burton, so if your soldiers are so strong as you think, why do you constantly need to call in airstrikes, and why do so many of them sadly end up being in a pussy situation when they get back home?
Also, if they, like you, believe they are doing us a favor, helping us, liberating us and telling us to shut up and be grateful, if all of this is supposed to be true then why don’t you prove it, by coming to us and checking our situation and our lifes? I can meet you up in any place in Iraq anytime you want, just decide a place and meeting. Come alone, it shouldn’t be a problem right and no danger, right?
After all we should be all a bunch of happy people throwing flowers to your guys. Freedom is here, everything is fine. You guys have saved us, just going by the words of your countrymen. So get over here and show us everything you speak of.
Your guys are pussies, just like you were pussies back in the Gulf War by using airstrikes on the Iraqi elite units Nebuchadrezzar and Hammurabi instead of fighting them face to face, of course the reason for that is because you never could break through them.
Did I forgot to tell you that you also had your ass kicked out of Vietnam?
Or the fact that your country, in 2003 attacked Iraq, a country with (at that time practically no military defense whatsoever due two wars fought prior to it and the sanctions? Yep, really strong guys you got there.
When you manage to beat a nation of your size in terms of military power then I’ll admit that you guys are strong. Want to show the whole world your strength? Then beat Russia or China, come and talk then, until then your military mostly (observe! not all) consist of nothing but weak shits with the most superior military equipment in the world. And until then your nation is a weak shit who can only beat poor nations with no defense whatsoever (aka Afghanistan, Iraq)
jack burton
As an American, there is nothing more that I would like to do than pick up our toys and take them home. You ungrateful fucks can end up throwing rocks at each other for all I care. The thought that even one US soldiers dies to help any of you idiots makes me sick. The whole lot of you aren’t worth it combined.
then i would be right to assume you are for withdrawing from iraq immediately?
That idiot person who threw his filthy shoes shouldn’t be existed, he will never understand what democracy mean. He just idiot and stupid. He desrespect his life.
NDHF Net HIGHLY evaluates the honorable attitudes of Mr Muntadhar al-Zaydi expressed in his two most recent “reports” for Mr Bush.
NDHF Net
http://newsdeskhelsinkifinland.net
1920 Revolution Brigades has just released a J&RFront statement “About the position of pride and dignity of the Journalist Montader Al-Zubaidi” http://www.ktb-20.com/?p=1448
It seems that their thinking is close to that of ours,
NDHF Net
http://newsdeskhelsinkifinland.net
Do you have the link? I’d like to link to the story if possible.
Zaftwave — proof that screwing sheep must bring on some inter-species dementia.
We conduct air strikes because that’s how a nation conducts war. I know that some goat-screwing raghead like yourself thinks that warfare means random bombings and blowing up schoolbusses and such, but when real countries fight, they fire munitions from as far away as possible. It has nothing to do with being pussies (you really reveal your stupidity there, not to mention a complete lack of military experience).
Of course, we are all aware that the real reason you are so scared of American air power is because you are well aware that the rock-throwing orangutans we’re fighting against couldn’t fly a paper plane if they had 3 weeks of instruction.
I also find your assertion that during the Gulf War we couldn’t handle the Iraqi “elite” units (what made them elite — they owned two pairs of shoes?) face to face laughable — we did. Our armored units cut through them like tissue paper. being “elite” meant they lasted 30 minutes more than the “line” units.
You call us pussies, even though we keep winning, and of course those great, brave Islamic warriors who shoot and run as fast as their little sandals will carry them are SO much braver, right?
I feel sorry for you — you must live in such a shitty little one-camel scrap of a place, so you have to make yourself feel better by bad-mouthing a great culture that is light-years ahead of your own.
Sorry, I forgot
Fuckshit Zaftwave!
See, I can be just as witty as you.
Texas Mike, I’ll quite happily spit on you. What you going to do, run off and cry to your mom? So many narrow-minded American views here. Gees, you lot have internet access and still suck Fox’s dick. Truly a sad nation. You all try to deflect the issue with “What if Saddam had been in charge still” — Well, how about if he’d thrown his shoes at Bush at a conference in the US? How many think he’d ever be seen alive after that? Of course, the Bush supporting idiots will say democracy would give him a fair trial… Right, if you believe that then you believe Iraq was liberated, not invaded and flattened. You do believe the latter? No wonder the world’s gone backwards. Come on Iran, hurry up and get the bomb because I’m sick of the Yanks telling the rest of the world what to do and calling it freedom.
One seriously pissed off white European. And an atheist.