Iraqi TV al-Sharqiya just reported on the news that AL-Zaidi is transferred to Camp Cropper prison [the Airport prison, managed by the American forces].
The TV Channel announced that Al-Zaidi is in a difficult condition, with broken ribs and signs of tortures on his thighs. Also he can not move his right arm.
P.S.
I am just telling you what I heard on TV.
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RegularAmerican, I know there are good guys like you among the American people, but after five years of constant killing, degrading, insults, demonizing, slaughtering of us, after 5 years of occupation you finally draw a line, and the tolerance you had for the people of the nation that attacked you drops to zero. At one point I didn’t judge the american people based on the actions of their governments, but take a look at your own people. These guys still exist, this is FIVE years after war. Now think what would happen if we were to pound in every single atrocity the U.S have commited? Nothing, they would try to justify every single part of it.
You might be among the smart ones, the rest of the world do not claim that they are perfect, they don’t hide atrocities commited in the name of their nation thanks to the leaders, and only a minority try to justify it. Its the opposite in the U.S, most of your people still live in La-la land thinking that the whole world are supposed to love them, and anyone who do not love them automatically become a terrorist.
Actually, based on the logic of your countrymen, the victims of 9–11 were all terrorists.
I mean no offense towards you as an individual human being, but I can’t say the same about your nation. Remember, your nation was once in the same position as us, back then you were the terrorists to the Brits. One would except your citizens to understand this situation better, but clearly your nation has instead become the most arrogant nation post-WW2 in the whole world.
Do you see me defend the atrocities Saddam commited? Not at all, I hated his government (although I prefer it more then the current one), I hate the Baathists regime in general, and I hate the current puppet government in place.
This is what is so unique in Iraq, Saddam and his men were assholes, but us regular Iraqis had mixed views, some love him, some hated him, but what most of ushave in common is that what Saddam did, the U.S made 10 times worse, yet you have your countrymen here screaming as if they saved the universe.
A guy might hit you a couple of times for no reason but eventually you’ll hit him back.
Have a good Christmas btw :)
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Morons.
1) You fucksticks need to figure out what side you’re on.
2) You also need to figure out that the US military isn’t in the habit of beating prisoners, regardless of how stupid they, or you, are.
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I would think the proper response to assaults on the POTUS would be to fill the perpetrator full of holes approx. the size of a 9mm bullet. If all you Bush haters would kindly take your BS and mindless drivel elsewhere, it would be appreciated. thx:rwb
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@ REGULAR AMERICAN: My name is Mr Jouna Pyysalo (Finland, EU, UN) and I’m the correspond-editor of NDHF Net news agency:
http://newsdeskhelsinkifinland.net
All of us, including myself, are ordinary Europeans, with no Arab, Muslim &c. roots so that we’re far more familiar with the US than the Muslim culture.
When you write “We need to understand you and your culture with respect. The same way you should ours.”, I must say that the problem is not there, but with the piggish world war brought to entire world by the U.S. as well as the Americans doing nothing.
Even the Nazis did better than Americans and Israelis as they at least tried to get rid of Hitler and his militant regime in June 1944 assassination attempt…
Jouna Pyysalo, NDHF Net
http://newsdeskhelsinkifinland.net
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Just Lurkin you really don’t get out much do you? Saddam Hussein was a US puppet who did his dirty deeds under US tutelage and only became a problem when he got too big for his britches so please stop with the “he was worst than us garbage”. The US taught him everything he knew.
I can’t believe some of the comments left by the mentally deficient on this subject. This guy was a dumbass. He should have been engaged and blown away before the second shoe was flying. He could easily have been throwing Richard-Reid-style shoe bombs, or even smuggled grenades (though I’m sure security was pretty tight). What moron stands up and throws a shoe during a press conference? It’s like we’re dealing with savages.
If this guy was so brave, I’d like to know if he would have thrown anything at Saddam?
So, who is alleged to have broken his ribs?
What is the nature of these “tortures”? According to some anti-Bush people, I am “tortured” when I hear a car playing loud rap music, or when a dog in the neighborhood barks at me. The word “torture” has become meaningless thanks to the BDS suffererers.
Details, please. Don’t believe everything you “just heard on TV”.
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Bush shoe-thrower ‘tortured’ — Brother
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/2008121618330140949.html
NDHF Net
http://newsdeskhelsinkifinland.net
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we love u mister Al-Zaidi and we are proud of you and molla and we are with u becouse you are sinless
Show some pride! We are A*M*E*R*I*C*A*N!! If you disrespect my President you disrespect me! For any military folks reading this thank you for being there to fight for our freedom, our families and my safety…God Bless You if i was older I would be proud to stand beside you. ~Still Disturbed
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that journalist one of the true heroes of this sordid mess. Thank you for having the courage for what many of us felt.
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Tribute to Muntadar al-Zaidi:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivansarmy/3114597806/in/photostream/
This journalist makes me laugh : ) I can understand this man throwing shoes at this American leader…we should applaused this man. Bush looked likes a real idiot (again) : )
That proves that Americans are not welcome in this country and I suggest Americans to stay at home, instead of trying to dominate to others countries and ressources they should try to remove all the dangerous bastards out of their streets first, and tried not to drown into debt because of this war. Americans that stand for war are not welcome to Canada. I suggest you to stay quiet and be gentle once you come to my country…be respectfull fucking bunch of insane idiots, dump asshole.
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Zaptwave..
that’s like condeming all of Germany and her proud people when Hitler was in power.
History unfolds at the hands of the powerful. The entire nation of America isn’t to blame. The people are basically good decent folks. Dumb? Crass? maybe, but it’s the Emerging New World order, a bigger picture than the Iraq War.
Iraq is a strategic deal. Israel…
fletcher, I apologize for the harsh words, you’ll have to excuse me, but at some points I’m not gonna just stand there and let shit be thrown on my people or on my nation, Americans constantly talk shit about my people, my nation, my culture and what it stands for, its all fine. I’ll do the same.
Btw interesting to note is that some of the German people actually tried to take down Hitler and his group before they could rise to power, sadly they failed. What have the American people done to prevent their government from killing more people half across the world?
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Western culture???
WHAT WESTERN CULTURE???
We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.
Albert Einstein.(maybe you dont consider Einstein western…or cultured???Whichever!!)
India invented the number system. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta in India.
The Arabs borrowed their numerical system – which is far better adapted to arithmetic than the Roman system – from ancient India. When they did so, they named the ‘0’ al-sifr, literally ‘void’. The Arabic word was Latinised as cephirum and cifra, which in Italy was deformed to zefero, and then zero. It is the latter which passed into English and French as the name for the symbol indicating the absence of quantity or magnitude. At the same time, French borrowed the Medieval Latin word cifra, transforming it into chiffre (‘number’), to designate numerical characters in general. It is from this same origin that English derived the word ‘cipher’, originally designating both ‘nought’ and ‘[any] Arabic numeral’, before taking on its present-day meaning of ‘code’ (from the technique of transposing letters according to a numerical key).
The world’s first university was established in Takshila in 700 BC.(you were still waiting to be DISCOVERED another couple of thousand years later!!)
More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the fourth century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education.
Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans. Charaka, the father of medicine consolidated Ayurveda 2,500 years ago. Today your civilized and cultured WESTERNERS are flocking to understand Ayruveda (also trying to steal and patent some of the stuff)
The art of navigation was developed in the river Sindh 6,000 years ago, The very word navigation is derived from the Sanskrit word navgatih. The word navy is also derived from Sanskrit nou.
Bhaskaracharya who calculated the time taken by the earth to orbit the sun hundreds of years before astronomer Smart, found in the fifth century, that it took 365.258756484 days.
The value of “Pi” was first calculated by Budhayana before Pythagoras. He discovered this in the sixth century long before European mathematicians.
Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were made by Sridharacharya in the 11th century. The largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Hindus used numbers as big as 1,053,91 0 to the power of 53 with specific names as early as 5,000 BC during the Vedic period. Even today, the largest used number is Tera 1,012,910 to the power,of 12.
According to the Gemological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds in the world.
USA based IEEE has proved that the pioneer of wireless communication was Prof. Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi — a century-old suspicion.
The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra.
According to Saka king Rudradaman I a beautiful lake called Sudarshana was constructed on the hills Raivataka during Chandragupta Maurya’s reign.
Chess (shataranj or ashtapada) was invented in India.
Sushruta is the father of surgery 2,000 years ago. He and health scientists of his time conducted complicated surgeries like caesareans, cataract, joining artificial limb, fractures, urinary stones removal, plastic surgery, and even brain surgery.
Usage of anesthesia was well-known in ancient India, Over 125 surgical equipment were used. Deep knowledge of anatomy, physiology, etiology, embryology, digestion, metabolism, genetics and immunity is also found in many ancient texts.
The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC.
When many cultures were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5,000 years ago, Indian established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley) civilization.
India was one of the richest countries on earth until the British invasion in the early 17th century.
I only know the details of our heritage.…but the Arab world also has inumerous such contributions to the human civilisation…saw a few glimpses of it in my last trip to Syria.…thousands of years old civilisations…
a little of the arabic / islamic contribution to the world, i learnt out of my own curiosity…
The word ‘algorithm’, for example, comes from the name of the great mathematician Al-Khawarizmi, who is the father of algebra – another Arabic word, coming from the title of Al-Khawarizmi’s work Kitab Al-Jabr (from jabara, ‘to set bones’). The Arabs are also ultimately responsible for the fact that mathematicians the world over today use the letter ‘x’ to designate the unknown quantity – ‘x’ being the first letter of the Spanish word xay, which is a deformation of the Arabic shay, meaning simply ‘thing’.
Al-Farghani measured the Earth’s diameter and gave the world ‘Elements of astronomy on the celestial motions’ (the Alfraganus crater on the Moon was named after Al-Farghani). Ibn Sina — greatly influenced by the Ismaili branch of Islam — was a physician, scientist and philosopher. He authored 450 books, presented the human civilisation ‘The Canon of Medicine’ and became the ‘father of modern medicine’.
Omar al-Khayyam was a mathematician, astronomer, sceptic, writer and poet. Omar Khayyam discovered binominal expansion, measured the length of the year to within six decimal points (as 365.242195), mapped the stars in the sky and showed the world how to solve cubic equations.
In 1970, a lunar crater was named after him. In 1980, an asteroid was named after him.
In the Middle Ages, the Arabs, having conserved the science of Antiquity and the teachings of Hippocrates and Galen, were the pioneers of medical research. In particular, they took up the theory of humours, according to which illness is the result of imbalances between four bodily fluids – blood, phlegm, yellow bile (or choler) and black bile (or melancholy) – which govern the body and the personality. Treatments prescribed under this system aimed to re-establish the initial balance, through medication and diet.
Arab doctors developed these teachings, leaning on a logical conception of ailments and a methodical approach. Thus they listed and described symptoms, improved the art of diagnosis and clinical practice, and laid down the basis of a professional code of conduct.
Their contributions to medical science were legion, encouraged by the construction of hospitals (in Baghdad, Cairo, Damascus, Samarkand and elsewhere), each under the command of a master. The basic principles of hygiene (asepsis, and the isolation of contagious cases) were discovered, at a time when Europe believed that leprosy and the plague could be transmitted by sight, and a very wide range of medications was developed thanks in part to wide-ranging international trade, be it by caravan or by sea. Countless plants, animal extracts and minerals were used in plasters, unguents, cataplasms and tablets.
Avicenna’s famous Canon (or Qanun) was a monumental medical encyclopaedia, which presented and categorised almost 800 remedies. European medical vocabulary to this day bears traces of the pharmacological inventiveness of the Arabs, in the form of words with Arabic etymologies such as ‘alcohol’, ‘benzine’, ‘benjoin’, ‘elixir’, ‘soda’, ‘talc’, ‘amber’, ‘senna’ and so on.
Avicenna (the Latinised form of the Arabic name Ibn Sina) was of course the outstanding figure in medieval Arab medicine. Born in 980 CE, Avicenna began to practice medicine at the age of 16. It is to him that we owe the first descriptions of meningitis and pleurisy, as well as over 100 medical and philosophical works.
His Canon was translated into Latin and published in Europe for the first time in 1473. Less than a hundred years later, it had already run to 36 editions.
There so much more that the WESTERNERS have taken from the East…but then…
all that is for civilised people to know…
my experience of an ‘educated‘Alabama guy was that he didn‘t even know there was a country called Colombia (he thought it was just a place in US and an university!!!)
after all the GREAT BUSH said it:
“But oftentimes I’m asked: Why? Why do you care what happens outside of America?” –George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 26,2008
“Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit.” –addressing Australian Prime Minister John Howard at the APEC Summit. Later, in the same speech: “As John Howard accurately noted when he went to thank the Austrian troops there last year…” –referring to Australian troops as “Austrian troops,” Sept. 7, 2007
THE MAN DOES NOT EVEN KNOW AUSTRIA AND AUSTRALIA ARE NOT THE SAME!!!
“One of the things important about history is to remember the true history.” –George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 6, 2008
“I’ll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office.” –George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008
“There is no doubt in my mind when history was written, the final page will say: Victory was achieved by the United States of America for the good of the world.” –George W. Bush, addressing U.S. troops at Camp Arifjan in Kuwait, Jan. 12, 2008
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
YOUR PRESIDENT NEEDS LESSONS IN HISTORY, GEOGRAPHY AND BASIC ENGLISH.…YOU DARE TO LECTURE (in your pathetic english) about western culture???
Mitch Miller
did your president pass the eighth grade?
i mean, i learnt to draw the world map in 4th grade.…
and i knew where Australia is and where Austria is…
and i am only an indian from the poor third world!!!
OUCH.…george bush needs to learn arithmatic too.…
“You helped our nation celebrate its bicentennial in 17 — 1976.” –president Bush to Queen Elizabeth, Washington, D.C., May 7, 2007
Amazing that he could read the size 10 of those shoes that spoke for all of the world‘s population who had been dreaming of doing what Zaidi had the courage to do!!!
Americans are a bunch of cowards and blind hypocrites! Finally someone had the courage to stand-up and face the enemy in a very heroic manner„ even if that meant torture afterwards! Good Job Al-Zaidi! my heart goes out to you and everyone who paid a very high price for this pathetic invasion .. history repeating itself, just like Hitler now we have another delusional to play his part years later.
I am French and Catholic.
As a Catholic and in support to my Muslim brothers, I want to state the following:
The american administration and its army starves and massacres innocent civilians while running an illegal war in Irak. The attitude of Georges Bush and his accomplices is abject..
I want to bring to Mr Mountazer al-Zaïdi, who legitimately throw his shoes to the coward, heretic and war monger, George Bush, all my support and my prayers. Mountazer al-Zaïdi is an Iraki Hero who trasncends his engagement for the freedom of his people by his acts. I know that God has his eyes on him and will protect him. He is a hero, and will have my prayers.
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It is a symbol more powerful than bombs or rockets. It is the defiance of lies. It was a brief moment when Bush actually made contact with the world he so terribly disfigured.
Just Lurkin–
I must apologize for my Ranting towards you earlier. I had a Terrible spat with my Thai Boyfriend, He’s Pre –op. The Gerbil shipment was late again and we couldnt find enough Mice to replace them in a timely manner.
BURN THAT CAMEL JOCKY AND KILL HIS FUCKING FAMILY… WE SHOULD NUKE YOU UNGRATEFULL DIRTY LITTLE BASTARDS AND TAKE YOUR FUCKING OIL… STOP YOUR FUCKING WHINING BECAUSE WE CAME ON YOUR SOIL AND WHIPPED YOUR ASS! DROP BOMBS ON ALL OF THEM! OUR MILITARY IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND IF YOU COULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN DAMN PROBLEMS WE WOULDN’T HAVE TO STEP IN AND DO IT FOR YOU! BURN IN HELL YOU DIRTY SAND NIGGERS, I HOPE YOU ALL STARVE SLOWLY!
AS SOON AS YOU DIRTY LITTLE BITCHES COME TO GRIPS WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE YOUR WHITE MASTERS … WE WILL GET ALONG FINE!