As Al-Sharqiya TV says that the Iraqi government refused to reveal the details of Biden’s discussion, but the only thing deliberately leaked
This “no federalism discussion” doesn’t explains his visit to Kirkuk, meeting the officials behind closed doors.
But as Al-Hurriya reported that Biden came with an unrevealed plan to solve Kirkuk crisis. The news site says that this is the behind the meeting of the two Kurdish parties to discus Biden’s plan.
Look at this coincidence: At the same day when Biden visited Kirkuk [today], an “old” confrontation between the Kurdish militia and the Iraqi army is back again after the central government deployed more forces into the “Kurdish areas” in Kirkuk. One of the Kirkuk Council Kurdish member said that the Iraqi army military besieged Kirkuk province.
I like your quotation to “Kurdish areas”, a typical Arab mentality to undermine the Kurdish minority. Every Kurd knows that Kurds cannot live with Arabs and their culture of backwards, ignorance and intolerance. For centuries we Kurds have offered a peaceful had to the Arabs, we even fought for them (Salahadin Eyubi), and we are still victims of their mentality. It’s not a political issue but rather a Arab mentality issue, people of common sense can not handle Arabs. They always want their way with no respect for other people.
I hope, like Israel we take back our city Kirkuk and remove EVERY Arab from that city for good!
i like the term you used “a typical Arab mentality”, the problem is that i am not an Arab. I am a Kurd also.
I’d like to add to LB’s comment that I — no more than any of the NDHF Net team — is Arab either: we’re ordinary Finns, Europeans and that’s it.
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Let me guess, Faily Kurd?
Wrong, not a brainwashed Kurd
You are not brainwashed? If you say so. Where are from? A Kurd that has lived in Baghdad most of her/his life? How about a short bio about you, so we know that you are not just a fake blogger.
@ LB: Don’t let the “Welat” distract you, stay on target…
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One thing you get it right: born in Baghdad
And that is enough, mostly I don’t comment because I don’t have the time.
Well, you are not the first Kurd I meet that has been Arabized, mostly Faily Kurds and other Kurds born in Baghdad.
How can you not be Arabized? With so much Arabic and Islamic propagandist, it would’ve been weird not to be so pan-Arab as you are.
In 1987 I was in Kirkuk as a kid, you couldn’t find a Arab there, from 1990 Hawler (Erbil) was getting thousands of Kirkuki Kurds from Kirkuk that wore not allowed to work, get married, or even get a driving license. It was a racist government and now we have a more racist government.
The more Kurds try to stay in some imagined union with Arab fanatics the more they are pushing their luck. Do you know any minority that Arab countries haven’t repressed? Do you any Arab government that has democracy and human rights?
I am still going to read your blog LB, I hope to learn more from your blog, since I have visited it on daily basis since I found it.
But I would appreciate that you don’t quote the word Kurdish when you talk about Kirkuk.
At least the Faily kurds integrated in the Iraqi society, so did other Kurds in cities like Fallujah and Basra. Meanwhile the Kurds in the north try to further isolate themselves, cause riots and problems. Looks to me that non-northern Kurds are way more civilized, as they manage to not only live with Arabs but other minorities, as opposed to Kurds who not only like to slaughter Arabs (as usual) but even minorities such as Christian Iraqis (the Christians of Mosul are good example). Don’t mistake me, Arab leaders and its most loyal supporters haven’t treated you nice so they aren’t innocent from this, they are what they are, assholes, but then you haven’t been perfect either (remember that the leaders you proudly support in fact worked with Saddam once in a time, by the typical north-Kurdish logic the Shia Iraqis have the right to hate you and fucking send you out to the sea, which btw would be stupid)
Furthermore Kurds in the north have hardly contributed shit to the whole Iraqi society as opposed to other Iraqi groups, ranging from Iraqi Arabs (Muslims, Christians, Jews) to Christian minorities (Assyrians, Chaldeans) to even Iraqi Persians. When you did something it was for yourselves, not for the people of Iraq.
Want your land so much? Then get the fuck out of Iraq and go back to where you came from, want to live in Iraq? Then start acting a bit like your brothers & sisters who live in cities where Kurds are not majority.
Think Iraqis are the only ones who oppose you? Ever wondered why the Turks and Syrians have problems with you? Did it ever cross your mind that when three fucking countries have problems with its Kurdish population there’s something seriously wrong among the Kurdish population?
Be glad that you’re a Kurd from Iraq, had the Iraqi Kurds from the noorth been from Turkey they would be lying in mass graves right now.
Ladybird is what she is, an Iraqi is what I and many others would call her, that she is Kurd don’t matter one f*cking bit to many of us, I can call her an Iraqi Kurd and it wouldn’t even make the slightest difference to me. You know why? Because this website (which shows her viewpoint of the situation over there) alone prove us enough that she is an Iraqi Kurd who truly loves her country, not some dumb nationalistic Kurd from the north who don’t consider him/herself as an Iraqi all for the purpose of dreaming of a Kurdish country, which will never come true as long as Iraq and surrounding countries exist.
The Iraqi Kurds in the north would have made the Baathists proud and happy, had most Baathists been Kurds instead of Arabs. Bravo.
Funny how Iraqi Shia’s don’t bitch to the same extent as the Kurds from the northern Iraq do, especially if you consider the fact that Iraqi Shias and Iraqi Kurds have been the biggest victims to Iraqi AND foreign brutality in modern Iraq.
Also, if you want to play the “there was no Arab in Kirkuk” bla bla bla thing, then you can start handing over your lands to the Iraqi Assyrians. Was the Arabization of Kurdish (and Turkomen) populated areas something right? Fuck no, it was nothing but discrimination and massacres, does it give the right for the Kurds to carry out ethnic cleansing of Iraqi Arabs and minorites? No.
Most Fayli Kurds are not integrated but rather assimilated, don’t get them confused. If you are a Kurd, and you forget your language, listen only to Arabic music, going to Arabic school, never practice Kurdish culture, then you are more Fayli Arab rather than Kurd. It’s not a skin color issue but rather a cultural issue.
The only civilization you can find in Iraq is among Sunnis in Baghdad and Mosul and most of Kurdistan in the North of so called Iraq. The rest is mostly a few decade behind civilization.
“Furthermore Kurds in the north have hardly contributed shit to the whole Iraqi society as opposed to other Iraqi groups, ranging from Iraqi Arabs (Muslims, Christians, Jews) to Christian minorities (Assyrians, Chaldeans) to even Iraqi Persians. When you did something it was for yourselves, not for the people of Iraq.”
Yes,you got that right. We did not lay on our backs and let the Arab chauvinism take the best out of us. We wore not cowards like the rest to hide and become Baath members. “If you cannot beat them join them” policy by Turkmens and Christians. We did not accept their Arabizim as they did. Than you for pointing that out clearly. We never want to be part of Iraq, if it was not fear of Turkey and Iran, I couldn’t imagine our leaders would ever want to go in political with Arabs ever.
“not some dumb nationalistic Kurd from the north who don’t consider him/herself as an Iraqi all for the purpose of dreaming of a Kurdish country, which will never come true as long as Iraq and surrounding countries exist.”
Funny, an Arab doesn’t like nationalisim? Thats got to be the biggest joke of ever. Every breath an Arab takes is ultra-Arabic nationalism. And if you consider being a housenigger like LADYBIRD to be a good thing, then good for you, as many LADYBIRD might be at total 1000 of them, we are 4,5 million and all 4.5 million of us spit on so called Iraq. You don’t believe me? Check out the referendum we had in 2004 where more than 99 procent wore for a independent Kurdistan.
“Want your land so much? Then get the fuck out of Iraq and go back to where you came from, want to live in Iraq? Then start acting a bit like your brothers & sisters who live in cities where Kurds are not majority.”
What the fuck are you talking about? You are the people that killed our people, we did not ask for Halabja, we did not ask to be in any union called Iraq, we have lived where we are for thousands of years you idiot.
How about you Arabs stay away from Kurdistan? How about you never lay your dirty feet on our soil? How about that?
Viva la Israel, Viva La Kurdistan
@ “Welat”: Why don’t you buzz off… We Finnish snowniggers back up LB anytime.
Your USraeli buddies are not at it only in Palestine, Iraq, but in Georgia and all over the world just as well…
Why don’t you just leave the responsible people to do real work around…
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